[Wikimedia-l] Feedback for the Wikimedia Foundation

[Martijn Hoekstra]

On Jul 24, 2013 9:57 AM, "Erik Moeller" <erik at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Tom Morris <tom at tommorris.org> wrote:
>
> > Should that even be a concern? I mean, if lots of newbies and
> > technophobes start using the Visual Editor and a bunch of us
> > dorks who love writing markup don't, would that matter?
>
> That's a great question, Tom. :)
>
> We're confident that in the long run, we'll be able to offer features
> and capabilities that will give experienced community members
> compelling reasons to use VisualEditor, so when people say things like
> "I will never use VisualEditor", I can only note that never is a very
> long time, and the bulk of our continued effort will go into making
> VisualEditor the best possible editing experience it can be.
>
> This is not a feature we're launching and forgetting about. This isn't
> an effort that's scheduled to end. Enabling collaboration is part of
> our core mission; it's at the heart of what we do. We've got our work
> cut out for us for the next few months, and we also know what some of
> the longer term objectives are (integration with discussions,
> real-time collaboration). Beyond that - sky's the limit.
>
> So, does it matter if people continue to use markup? Probably not -
> but if you're a human, we'll aim to give you a much better tool to get
> the job done. So even if you are, as you put it, a markup-loving dork,
> we hope you'll come visit us in VisualEditor-land every once in a
> while and mingle with us. We do have cookies, and tales of template
> madness.
>
> Erik
> --
> Erik Möller

Speaking of template madness, the current horrible brokenness that are
templates seem to be on the long term roadmap to be fixed. Fixing them
requires breaking a whole lot, far more than a visual editor preference. Is
two way community dialog on how to handle that on the roadmap? It might
still be years and years away, but boy will it hurt, and we better brace
ourselves.

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