[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: change in article edits after visual editor roll-out (was Re: Feedback for the Wikimedia Foundation)

[Peter Southwood]

Say again?
Peter
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Oliver Keyes" <okeyes at wikimedia.org>
To: "Wikimedia Mailing List" <wikimedia-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: change in article edits after visual editor 
roll-out (was Re: Feedback for the Wikimedia Foundation)


> "active editors" == "editors with > [5/10/depending on standard] edits a
> month". It's pretty impossible, at our end, for us to identify one person
> between multiple IPs or one person between multiple IPs.
>
>
> On 22 July 2013 17:16, James Salsman <jsalsman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Nathan wrote:
>> >...
>> > Because they are measuring different things? The first refers
>> > to newly registered editors, which the second (judging by
>> > your summary) does not.
>>
>> You are absolutely right. This gives us a silver lining insight that 
>> about
>> 80% of anonymous IP editors have the editing experience of
>> non-new registered editors. Therefore most of them should be added to the
>> number of long term active editors, and even by a conservative estimate
>> that means that the Foundation has finally reached the elusive long term
>> strategic goal in growth of active editors.  Congratulations!
>>
>> Always look on the bright side!
>>
>> Robert Rohde wrote:
>> >...
>> > early evidence that VE makes new users less likely to edit [2][3]
>> >...
>> > [2]
>>
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:VisualEditor%27s_effect_on_newly_registered_editors/Results
>> > [3]
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback&oldid=565381622#Some_performance_notes
>> >...
>>
>> [2] states: "Newcomers with the VisualEditor were ~43% less likely to
>> save a single edit than editors with the wikitext editor (x^2=279.4,
>> p<0.001), meaning that Visual Editor presented nearly a 2:1 increase
>> in editing difficulty."
>>
>> [3] states:
>>
>> > Change in total (daily) article edits since before VE became default on 
>> > 1
>> July (comparison: 18-30 June): -4.5%
>> > Change in registered user article edits since before VE became default:
>> -2.2%
>> > Change in anon article edits since before VE became default: -8.6%
>>
>> Both of those statistics are terrible and would strongly support
>> shutting the visual editor off except for opt-ins until all open bugs
>> including browser and mobile device coverage are addressed before
>> trying again.
>>
>> But why are those statistics so different?
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