[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: change in article edits after visual editor roll-out (was Re: Feedback for the Wikimedia Foundation)

[Oliver Keyes]

"active editors" == "editors with > [5/10/depending on standard] edits a
month". It's pretty impossible, at our end, for us to identify one person
between multiple IPs or one person between multiple IPs.


On 22 July 2013 17:16, James Salsman <jsalsman at gmail.com> wrote:

> Nathan wrote:
> >...
> > Because they are measuring different things? The first refers
> > to newly registered editors, which the second (judging by
> > your summary) does not.
>
> You are absolutely right. This gives us a silver lining insight that about
> 80% of anonymous IP editors have the editing experience of
> non-new registered editors. Therefore most of them should be added to the
> number of long term active editors, and even by a conservative estimate
> that means that the Foundation has finally reached the elusive long term
> strategic goal in growth of active editors.  Congratulations!
>
> Always look on the bright side!
>
> Robert Rohde wrote:
> >...
> > early evidence that VE makes new users less likely to edit [2][3]
> >...
> > [2]
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:VisualEditor%27s_effect_on_newly_registered_editors/Results
> > [3]
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback&oldid=565381622#Some_performance_notes
> >...
>
> [2] states: "Newcomers with the VisualEditor were ~43% less likely to
> save a single edit than editors with the wikitext editor (x^2=279.4,
> p<0.001), meaning that Visual Editor presented nearly a 2:1 increase
> in editing difficulty."
>
> [3] states:
>
> > Change in total (daily) article edits since before VE became default on 1
> July (comparison: 18-30 June): -4.5%
> > Change in registered user article edits since before VE became default:
> -2.2%
> > Change in anon article edits since before VE became default: -8.6%
>
> Both of those statistics are terrible and would strongly support
> shutting the visual editor off except for opt-ins until all open bugs
> including browser and mobile device coverage are addressed before
> trying again.
>
> But why are those statistics so different?
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Oliver Keyes
Community Liaison, Product Development
Wikimedia Foundation