[Wikimedia-l] Are chapters part of the community and board seats for affiliates?

Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argenton at gmail.com
Sun Feb 24 09:33:39 UTC 2013


Two things, one is, I do not know why these discussions are not held in a Wiki
( ie meta), which is easier to document and much easier to follow.

The second point:

I think the chapters are a significant part of the community, however, as only
one part, the chapters can not, should not speak for the whole. Thus,
it is interesting
to have people with most varied visions, perhaps because chapter people is
not interesting some kind of group, but for others from the Movement, that
affiliation is What they need. More than that, if you only choose people of
the chapters, you will never have different visions, so you always forced, in
a way, that group fits in your reality, or be like a "European" chapter.


observations


   - If there is doubt as what's the chapter role in the Movement, how can
   we know what is a chapter? Why is there so much energy lost in
   bureaucracies, rather than focusing on activities? Chapters are
made to perform
   activities? If yes, so why not prioritize the best local structures for
   this to occur? If not, why choose people from chapter to decide about
   other types of groups that only will do activities?
   - Why AffCom discussions are closed, since you are not the whole
   community? Why need to be so few people, and so obscure? Why not follow the
   other current processes and make openings for communities?
   - If a chapter is something that is done to serve the needs of online
   communities, and people of the chapters make decisions without
consulting these
   communities, without discussing the annual planning, or strategic
   planning with these communities, how can they accomplish what online
   communities want? And thinking in that, how they will those who is the
   best group for affiliation for the communities?



On 23 February 2013 15:48, Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki em gmail.com> wrote:

> I see some fundamental misunderstandings here, which make this discussion
> so far not so productive and for which I am/was planning a reply...
> however, in the end I doubt I'd manage to say it better than Anthere:
> http://article.gmane.org/**gmane.org.wikimedia.**foundation/6652<http://article.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation/6652>
>
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