[Wikimedia-l] Strange, surprising, bold and unnecessary - reply to the WMF board statement

[Thomas Dalton]

The wca does not make decisions about what is and is not a chapter. The
foundation (through AffCom) does that.

The council members do not represent the movement. They represent the
chapters.
On Feb 6, 2013 4:30 PM, "Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton" <
rodrigo.argenton at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have not talked to use, said it's weird, and that's all.
>
> Alias, we never spoke for you to use, but you always forced us to use a
> different model, not ours, so that today we could not enter the "club". And
> even now that we adapt our model to model your model, you have not approved
> us.
>
> And this is one of the points, if we're not as think as you do, we can not
> be
> part of the WCA, and not just any volunteer who can opine, are two per
> chapter representing an entire community, and sometimes the chapter does
> not represent the Movement Wikimedia of the country in its entirety, with a
> gap between the publishing community and the offline community, the first
> one, in this model, would never be represented.
>
>
>
> On 6 February 2013 13:52, Charles Andrès <charles.andres.wmch at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > In the WCA model the decision making power is held by the council, it
> > means by the assembly of all chapters, there is no high power statutory
> > position.
> >
> > And any chapter can be a member of the Chapter association.
> >
> >
> > charles
> > ___________________________________________________________
> > I use this email for mailing list only.
> >
> > Charles ANDRES, Chairman
> > "Wikimedia CH" – Association for the advancement of free knowledge –
> > www.wikimedia.ch
> > Skype: charles.andres.wmch
> > IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch
> >
> > Le 6 févr. 2013 à 16:18, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
> > rodrigo.argenton at gmail.com> a écrit :
> >
> > > Administrators are just volunteers with tools that do what the
> community
> > > demands, has no decision-making powers, is not a statutory position.
> > > Furthermore, anyone can volunteer in Wikis, but is not anyone who may
> be
> > a
> > > member of WCA...
> > >
> > > And there are a lot of other differences that I'll let you think.
> > >
> > > On 6 February 2013 13:12, Charles Andrès <
> charles.andres.wmch at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> I do not see big difference between what you call "wiki model" and an
> > >> association like the chapters association.
> > >>
> > >> Every individual has the same right, for specific purpose both model
> > need
> > >> to elect a guy that took the responsibility.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ___________________________________________________________
> > >> I use this email for mailing list only.
> > >>
> > >> Charles ANDRES, Chairman
> > >> "Wikimedia CH" – Association for the advancement of free knowledge –
> > >> www.wikimedia.ch
> > >> Skype: charles.andres.wmch
> > >> IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch
> > >>
> > >> Le 6 févr. 2013 à 15:55, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
> > >> rodrigo.argenton at gmail.com> a écrit :
> > >>
> > >>> So ... you not believes in the model Wiki, and also not believes that
> > he
> > >> can be
> > >>> used in other locations, unless in building a encyclopedia?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 6 February 2013 12:51, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> On 6 February 2013 14:44, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton
> > >>>> <rodrigo.argenton at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>> I said this in Berlin, and I will repeat here: Why the chapters do
> > not
> > >>>>> apply the Wiki model in the offline world?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Because different problems require different solutions.
> > >>>>
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