[Wikimedia-l] Internet.org and Wikipedia Zero ?

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
For your information ... an interview with Mr Zuggerberg... In my opinion
there is an opportunity as he is looking for dense information.. we are
really good at that :)
Thanks,
     Gerard

http://www.wired.com/business/2013/08/mark-zuckerberg-internet-org/


On 23 August 2013 14:38, Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada <emijrp at gmail.com>wrote:

> Looks like NSA has bought some new hard drives and needs moar data.
>
>
> 2013/8/23 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>
>
> > Hoi,
> > But when they provide the infrastructure that allows our content to be
> seen
> > by many more people, they do us a service.
> >
> > In the end it is what we are about. Last thing I heard we were first of
> all
> > about getting the knowledge out there.
> > Thanks,
> >       GerardM
> >
> >
> > On 23 August 2013 12:14, Jens Best <jens.best at wikimedia.de> wrote:
> >
> > > Nothing good comes with people like Mark Zuckerberg or Peter Thiel,
> they
> > > don't share our vision of a *really* free and open internet. So,
> > actually,
> > > Emmanuel, I couldn't care less which direction they gonna make their
> next
> > > moves. It will all be a disguise of what they really attempt and with
> > whom
> > > they really cooperate.
> > >
> > > It's time to realize that there isn't a shared vision of the web
> between
> > > Silicon Valley and Wikimedia. Their words are empty. When they speak of
> > > freedom, they speak of the freedom of money and control. Just because
> > they
> > > use the word "internet" they don't speak of the same thing we do.
> > >
> > > Jens
> > >
> > > 2013/8/23 Emmanuel Engelhart <kelson at kiwix.org>
> > >
> > > > Le 23/08/2013 10:59, Kul Wadhwa a écrit :
> > > > > I have my concerns as well so we're watching how things unfold for
> > now.
> > > > > Perhaps to add to Teemu's question (If I could be so bold) how
> would
> > > > > internet.org need to evolve to make it worth our time and effort
> to
> > be
> > > > > involved?
> > > >
> > > > If what I fear becomes real, then I would be sad that our movement
> > joins
> > > > such a dishonest project.
> > > >
> > > > If they want to give access to a subset of Internet services and
> adapt
> > > > their communication (honesty about the product), then we face a
> > dilemma.
> > > > A dilemna between our wish to give access to our content (tactical
> > move)
> > > > and the one of having a free, neutral and un-clustered Internet
> > > > (strategical view)... Big discussions in view, but we already have
> done
> > > > it with Wikipedia zero and I know the WMF tends to be pragmatic in
> such
> > > > situations ;)
> > > >
> > > > If they really want to help to give a neutral access to internet...
> > then
> > > > this is really a dream we should be part of!
> > > >
> > > > But, this is all about speculations...
> > > >
> > > > I just wanted to explain why this launch doesn't sound well to my
> > hears.
> > > > But I know nothing about their real intentions and concrete projects.
> > > > That's why, it's IMO urgent to wait... and see in which direction
> they
> > > > will make the next moves.
> > > >
> > > > Emmanuel
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