[Wikimedia-l] Visual Editor "temporary" opt-out

Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoekstra at gmail.com
Tue Aug 6 14:55:50 UTC 2013


On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Kevin Wayne Williams <
kwwilliams at kwwilliams.com> wrote:

> Op 2013/08/05 23:44, MZMcBride schreef:
>
>  This leaves us to consider the biggest question: opt-in vs. opt-out. Erik
>> and James are both quite smart, they are true Wikimedians, and they make
>> reasonable points about choosing opt-out over opt-in.
>>
> This is the point on which we fundamentally disagree. Their argument for
> 'opt-out' is based solely upon the quality and quantity of testing that it
> affords to VE. VE is not a mission-critical feature: while we have concerns
> about Wikipedia's sustainability, there's no question that it has survived
> for years and will survive for years more. The stability of the site is
> much more important than testing this code, and the testing strategy of
> presenting it as if it was functioning software and seeing what people did
> with it wasn't a reasonable decision: it was completely and absolutely
> irresponsible.
>
> KWW
>
>
Opt-out with a beta or experimental notice (as it is now when enabled on
en.wiki) doesn't seem to have the problem of presenting it if it were
mature software you present as the pivotal problem in this post.




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