[Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

[Deryck Chan]

On 29 April 2013 21:10, Jan-Bart de Vreede <jdevreede at wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Hey
>
> So while I really regret your decision and hope that you will reconsider I
> would like to ask you something.
>
> >
> > Or, ironically, putting together a reallocation grant. Here's another
> > hen-and-egg problem for you all. We saw little value in settling the
> > remaining funds from the 2010-11 grants because the FDC results will
> change
> > everything anyway. Ironically the WMF and FDC became convinced that this
> is
> > a valid reason to retrospectively disqualify us.
> >
>
> But you say "we" … We refers to WMHK I assume, but did you do this after a
> discussion with the Grants Programme, or did you decide this on your own?

I work for the non-profit sector, and there is not way that any
> organisation I know could get away with something like that I am afraid. If
> you are given money for a reason, you cannot simply decide to take it as an
> advance on a possible next grant without agreement of the party that
> supplied you with the grant. I am sorry, but this is not Irony, this is
> governance…
>

>From my reply to THO (also on this thread): "We have replied multiple times
that we want the remaining funds from the 2010-11 grants to be considered
in conjunction with the FDC proposal. (ie. the FDC proposal is the
reallocation request.) This is because it is logistically impractical for
us to return any funds to WMF before the end of Wikimania."

>
> Additionally I see that the community consultation phase asked for the
> annual report and you stated that it would be available on the WMHK website
> after the meeting of the 16th of March…  I wanted to go through it, but
> could not find it on the home page (I would assume its under
> documentation?) Can you point me to it?
>

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Hong_Kong_2011-12_Annual_Report_and_Financial_Report.pdf
(or scroll halfway down the proposal page)

>
> And again: the FDC stated more reasons to turn down the request,not just
> the fact that WMHK was not in compliance, they obviously spent a
> significant amount of time discussing this...
>
> Jan-Bart
>
>
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>
>
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Craig Franklin
> >>
> >>
> >> On 29 April 2013 17:25, Thehelpfulone <thehelpfulonewiki at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 29 Apr 2013, at 07:52, Tilman Bayer <tbayer at wikimedia.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I'm not familiar with the case, but reading that page, it seems that
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:WM_HK/Education_Toolkits_For_Liberal_Studies/Report#Remaining_funds
> >>>> might also have played a role for the FDC's recommendation?
> >>>
> >>> Indeed, yet it looks like there has been no (public) follow up by the
> >> paid
> >>> WMF grants staff for over a month. In addition,
> >>>
> >>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Proposals/2012-2013_round2/Wikimedia_Hong_KongshowsWMHKto still be an eligible entity.
> >>>
> >>> Winifred/Asaf, please can you clarify whether WMHK is still an eligible
> >>> entity and what follow up was done after that message a month ago?
> >>>
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