[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Re: Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

[Deryck Chan]

We have replied multiple times that we want the remaining funds from the
2010-11 grants to be considered in conjunction with the FDC proposal. (ie.
the FDC proposal is the reallocation request.) This is because it is
logistically impractical for us to return any funds to WMF before the end
of Wikimania.

Winifred informed us of the "out of compliance" well after the grant report
was accepted and the FDC eligibility of WMHK was announced. *There was no
indication whatsoever that this late notice of "out of compliance" may lead
to retrospective disqualification.*

Deryck

(cc. Patricio and Jan-Bart as the official contacts for FDC complaints.
Yes, I'm accusing WMF grants staff of foul play with the FDC rules.)


On 29 April 2013 12:50, Thehelpfulone <thehelpfulonewiki at gmail.com> wrote:

> Deryck please could you confirm what happened with regards to the unused
> funds - did WMHK request a reallocation?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On 29 Apr 2013, at 12:43, Deryck Chan <deryckchan at wikimedia.hk> wrote:
>
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: "Deryck Chan" <deryckchan at gmail.com>
> > Date: 29 Apr 2013 12:42
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark
> > to everyone
> > To: <cfranklin at halonetwork.net>
> > Cc: "Wikimedia Mailing List" <wikimedia-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> >
> > See the footnotes on the FDC decision page. Both WMHK and WMCZ were
> > declared eligible at the time of submission, but the WMF subsequently
> found
> > new faults during the review period which they chose to use as convenient
> > excuses to disqualify these 2 chapters.
> > On 29 Apr 2013 12:33, "Craig Franklin" <cfranklin at halonetwork.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I'd like to come back to this - if the entity was told they were
> eligible
> >> (which certainly looks to be the case from the public documents), when
> was
> >> it discovered they were not?  Obviously, putting together an FDC
> >> application is a tremendous amount of work for a chapter, and if the
> effort
> >> was futile from the start, then the time that Deryck and WMHK put into
> this
> >> could have been better spent on useful programme work instead.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Craig Franklin
> >>
> >>
> >> On 29 April 2013 17:25, Thehelpfulone <thehelpfulonewiki at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 29 Apr 2013, at 07:52, Tilman Bayer <tbayer at wikimedia.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I'm not familiar with the case, but reading that page, it seems that
> >>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:WM_HK/Education_Toolkits_For_Liberal_Studies/Report#Remaining_funds
> >>>> might also have played a role for the FDC's recommendation?
> >>>
> >>> Indeed, yet it looks like there has been no (public) follow up by the
> >> paid
> >>> WMF grants staff for over a month. In addition,
> >>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Proposals/2012-2013_round2/Wikimedia_Hong_KongshowsWMHKto still be an eligible entity.
> >>>
> >>> Winifred/Asaf, please can you clarify whether WMHK is still an eligible
> >>> entity and what follow up was done after that message a month ago?
> >>>
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