[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Re: Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

Tilman Bayer tbayer at wikimedia.org
Mon Apr 29 14:51:44 UTC 2013


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 4:50 AM, Thehelpfulone
<thehelpfulonewiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> Deryck please could you confirm what happened with regards to the unused funds - did WMHK request a reallocation?

It seem that instead of "unused funds", your question should be
reworded to "unaccounted funds" or "funds not used for the stated
purpose". That the missing USD 5981 had not been used (and were still
sitting in WMHK's bank account) appears to have been the assumption in
December when the WMF grants administrator accepted the report for the
grant and suggested to offset the amount against an upcoming grant for
the chapter. But on February 28 - on the eve of the FDC proposal
deadline - Deryck responded explaining that the money had in fact
already been used for purposes not mentioned in the grant report.

Apart from that, your question seems valid: The path subsequently
suggested by the grants administrator to resolve the situation (while
indicating implications regarding the chapter's FDC proposal) was to
request a reallocation while explaining what the money was spent for,
so it is relevant to know whether it was taken.

Again, I'm not familiar with this case and am going purely by the text
on the linked page.

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> Thehelpfulone
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> On 29 Apr 2013, at 12:43, Deryck Chan <deryckchan at wikimedia.hk> wrote:
>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Deryck Chan" <deryckchan at gmail.com>
>> Date: 29 Apr 2013 12:42
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark
>> to everyone
>> To: <cfranklin at halonetwork.net>
>> Cc: "Wikimedia Mailing List" <wikimedia-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>>
>> See the footnotes on the FDC decision page. Both WMHK and WMCZ were
>> declared eligible at the time of submission, but the WMF subsequently found
>> new faults during the review period which they chose to use as convenient
>> excuses to disqualify these 2 chapters.
>> On 29 Apr 2013 12:33, "Craig Franklin" <cfranklin at halonetwork.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd like to come back to this - if the entity was told they were eligible
>>> (which certainly looks to be the case from the public documents), when was
>>> it discovered they were not?  Obviously, putting together an FDC
>>> application is a tremendous amount of work for a chapter, and if the effort
>>> was futile from the start, then the time that Deryck and WMHK put into this
>>> could have been better spent on useful programme work instead.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Craig Franklin
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29 April 2013 17:25, Thehelpfulone <thehelpfulonewiki at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 29 Apr 2013, at 07:52, Tilman Bayer <tbayer at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm not familiar with the case, but reading that page, it seems that
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:WM_HK/Education_Toolkits_For_Liberal_Studies/Report#Remaining_funds
>>>>> might also have played a role for the FDC's recommendation?
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, yet it looks like there has been no (public) follow up by the
>>> paid
>>>> WMF grants staff for over a month. In addition,
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Proposals/2012-2013_round2/Wikimedia_Hong_KongshowsWMHK to still be an eligible entity.
>>>>
>>>> Winifred/Asaf, please can you clarify whether WMHK is still an eligible
>>>> entity and what follow up was done after that message a month ago?
>>>>
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