[Wikimedia-l] French intelligency agency forces removal of a Wikipedia article

[Thomas Dalton]

I don't understand the "no"; you seem to be agreeing with Nathan...

On 8 April 2013 21:19, Fred Bauder <fredbaud at fairpoint.net> wrote:
> No, some information which is classified is also contained within
> reliable published sources available to the public and we use that
> information in our articles, along with occasional original research
> which may due to good guesses also contain such information. There are
> not two separate worlds of reliable classified information and reliable
> unclassified information; they overlap.
>
> For example, if Mongolia purchases MIG aircraft that will result in an
> intelligence bulletin; but also there may be an AP story. The summary of
> classified information about the planes Mongolia has may have an
> inferior, but more or less accurate, Wikipedia counterpart article about
> the Mongolian air force, which if copied to the Intelligence wiki looks
> like it contains "secret" information, which, presumably the full file on
> Mongolian armed forces probably is.
>
> Fred
>
>> In other words, the problem was people were uploading Wikipedia
>> articles which the government thought included classified information?
>> And because the pages were already public uploaders assumed they were
>> unclassified, but because the government is nuts, they were wrong.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 3:06 PM, George Herbert <george.herbert at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Romaine Wiki <romaine_wiki at yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 12:31:29, Fred Bauder <fredbaud at fairpoint.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > I can't see what would be sensitive in the article..
>>>>
>>>> I think that the existence of the article is considered too sensitive
>>>> for
>>>> them, not realizing that all information is already elsewhere on the
>>>> internet.
>>>
>>>
>>> A couple of years ago, the guy in charge of the CIA's internal
>>> MediaWiki
>>> (the Intelligence Wiki, which they added classification levels etc) did
>>> a
>>> talk at ... Usenix?  LISA?  One of their conferences.
>>>
>>> He was talking about challenges.  The code certification was
>>> interesting.
>>>  The Wiki project getting in trouble for having (US classified) Secret,
>>> Top
>>> Secret, or Top Secret SCI (Secure Compartmented Information) in the
>>> "Open-unclassified" category *due to Wikipedia uploads/imports* was
>>> apparently a major ongoing pain point for the whole organization.
>>>
>>> Fortunately not one that was being exposed to the public, other than
>>> his
>>> talk...
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> -george william herbert
>>> george.herbert at gmail.com
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