[Wikimedia-l] Crisis of conscience Fwd: [REA]

David Goodman dggenwp at gmail.com
Tue Apr 2 02:26:20 UTC 2013


The entire  editorial board resigned over the way the publisher was doing
it, and that it indicates the true meaning of such a precedent.


On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak <darekj at alk.edu.pl>wrote:

> hi,
>
> as far as I know, these prices are not established basing on the cost side,
> but the opportunity to charge scholars (who can often justify 3k expense in
> a larger grant budget). All this business is quite shady and despicable in
> many cases (when the publishers do not offer anything in exchange, barely
> support the publication process and the journal, etc.), but in some cases
> there is a professional support at least.
>
> best,
>
> dj
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 12:29 PM, rupert THURNER <rupert.thurner at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > it seems that CEO of taylor & francis, Roger Horton [2], wanted to charge
> > nearly 3000 USD to publish an article accessible without paywall in their
> > "journal of library administration" [0]. they belong to informa, with its
> > CEO, Peter Rigby [1].
> >
> > would 3000 usd in future be then a fair price the wikimedia movement
> should
> > offer scientific authors and reviewing groups to publish an article as
> > cc-by-sa? i was trying to get some information to calculate if this
> number
> > does make any sense [3][4][5][6][7]
> > * 15'000 - 25'000 peer reviewed journals
> > * 1'300'000 peer reviewed papers published a year
> > * 3.5 % of them open available, further 4.6 % after some embargo period
> > * 4'000 publishers
> > * 2'200'000 books published a year
> > * 2012 reed elsevier numbers:
> >    * total revenue: $9bn
> >    * profit: £2bn
> >    * revenue scientific publications: £3 bn
> >    * electronic revenue: 54%
> >    * user&subscription revenue: 70%
> >    * 30'000 people
> > * 2011 informa / taylor francis numbers:
> >    * total revenue $2 bn
> >    * profit $511 m
> >    * publishing business 54% of total revenue
> >    * publishing business 69% of profit
> >    * 67% of publishing revenues is through subscriptions
> >    * part of it academic information (AI)
> >       * 25% of groups revenue
> >       * 35% of groups profit
> >       * 20% of groups employees (<1600, out of 8300)
> >       * 1'600 academic journals
> >       * 3'500 new books published
> >
> > this would mean, if one paper costs $3'000 * 1'300'000 = 3'900'000'000
> ...
> > the peer reviewed scientific publishing market would be a $4bn market in
> > 2013. 2003 the guardian reported the "scientific publishing market" worth
> > £4.5bn. [8] and, it would mean 1 person at a publisher works full time
> for
> > one academic journal published. "open access" et al is listed as
> "external
> > risk" e.g. in reed elseviers annual report. profit in the academic
> > information domain seems to be > 30% of the revenue.
> >
> > [0]
> >
> >
> http://chronicle.com/blogs/wiredcampus/journals-editorial-board-resigns-in-protest-of-publishers-policy-toward-authors/43149
> > [1] http://www.informa.com/Who-We-Are/Board-of-Directors/Peter-Rigby/
> > [2] https://twitter.com/RogerGHorton
> > [3] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2909426/
> > [4] http://informationr.net/ir/14-1/paper391.html
> > [5] http://www.worldometers.info/books/
> > [6]
> > http://reporting.reedelsevier.com/media/174016/reed_elsevier_ar_2012.pdf
> > [7]
> >
> >
> http://www.informa.com/Documents/Investor%20Relations/Reports/2011/AnnualReport_2011.pdf
> > [8]
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2003/dec/12/houseofcommons.research
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 2:19 AM, Everton Zanella Alvarenga <
> > everton.alvarenga at okfn.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Good example.
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: Barbara Dieu <beeonline at gmail.com>
> > > Date: 2013/3/27
> > > Subject: [REA] Crisis of conscience
> > > To: rea-lista at googlegroups.com
> > >
> > >
> > > Entire library journal editorial board resigns, citing 'crisis of
> > > conscience' after death of Aaron Swartz
> > >
> > > In a dramatic show of support for the open access movement, the
> > > editor-in-chief and entire editorial board of the Journal of Library
> > > Administration announced their resignation last week. In a letter to
> > > contributors, the board singled out a conflict with owners over the
> > > journal's licensing terms, which stripped authors of almost all claim
> > > to ownership of their work.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/26/4149752/library-journal-resigns-for-open-access-citing-aaron-swartz
> > >
> > > Um abc
> > > B.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Barbara Dieu
> > > http://barbaradieu.com
> > > http://beespace.net
> > >
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