[Wikimedia-l] Info action

Tue Oct 23 16:37:31 UTC 2012

Thanks, MZMcBride.

This is a really cool feature, which seems helpful for a wide range of different uses.

Kudos to Madman, Krenair and everyone who made this possible!

Fabrice

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>   1. Info action (MZMcBride)
>   2. Re: Info action (Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation)
>   3. Re: Info action (Risker)
>   4. Re: Info action (Richard Symonds)
>   5. Re: Info action (David Gerard)
>   6. Re: Info action (Andy Mabbett)
>   7. Re: Info action (Thomas Morton)
>   8. Re: Info action (Przykuta)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 17:41:21 -0400
> From: MZMcBride <z at mzmcbride.com>
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Info action
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> 
> Hi.
> 
> This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a "Page information" link
> in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis. It
> is deployed now to a few wikis already. This "Page information" link leads
> to a newly reimplemented info action:
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=info
> 
> Many, many years ago, the info action was added to MediaWiki, but due to
> performance issues, it was quickly disabled by default and was mostly
> forgotten about. This year, with the wonderful help of Madman, Krenair, and
> others, we have reimplemented the info action to provide an information
> dashboard of sorts about a particular page title to users.
> 
> This dashboard includes a variety of metadata about the page, including the
> page's protection status, length, default categorization sort key, internal
> page ID, templates used on the page, and more. The content is somewhat
> dynamic: for some pages it will omit certain irrelevant fields and for some
> users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such as the
> number of page watchers) will be displayed. This will slowly allow for the
> deprecation of outside tools that currently provide information of this
> nature.
> 
> The hope is that this action will evolve over time to become a valuable
> resource for users. If you can think of data points that are missing from
> the current action's output or have other ideas to improve the info action
> (it desperately needs a little design love), please feel free to e-mail this
> list or file a bug at <https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/>.
> 
> MZMcBride
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:59:49 +0000
> From: "Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation"
> 	<pbeaudette at wikimedia.org>
> To: "Wikimedia Mailing List" <wikimedia-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info action
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> Now that's just cool...
> -----------------------
> Philippe Beaudette
> Director, Community Advocacy
> Wikimedia Foundation, Inc 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: MZMcBride <z at mzmcbride.com>
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> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 17:41:21 
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List<wikimedia-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
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> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Info action
> 
> Hi.
> 
> This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a "Page information" link
> in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis. It
> is deployed now to a few wikis already. This "Page information" link leads
> to a newly reimplemented info action:
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=info
> 
> Many, many years ago, the info action was added to MediaWiki, but due to
> performance issues, it was quickly disabled by default and was mostly
> forgotten about. This year, with the wonderful help of Madman, Krenair, and
> others, we have reimplemented the info action to provide an information
> dashboard of sorts about a particular page title to users.
> 
> This dashboard includes a variety of metadata about the page, including the
> page's protection status, length, default categorization sort key, internal
> page ID, templates used on the page, and more. The content is somewhat
> dynamic: for some pages it will omit certain irrelevant fields and for some
> users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such as the
> number of page watchers) will be displayed. This will slowly allow for the
> deprecation of outside tools that currently provide information of this
> nature.
> 
> The hope is that this action will evolve over time to become a valuable
> resource for users. If you can think of data points that are missing from
> the current action's output or have other ideas to improve the info action
> (it desperately needs a little design love), please feel free to e-mail this
> list or file a bug at <https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/>.
> 
> MZMcBride
> 
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 18:04:21 -0400
> From: Risker <risker.wp at gmail.com>
> To: pbeaudette at wikimedia.org, 	Wikimedia Mailing List
> 	<wikimedia-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info action
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> Concur with Philippe.  Thanks for letting us know about this.
> 
> Risker
> 
> On 22 October 2012 17:59, Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation <
> pbeaudette at wikimedia.org> wrote:
> 
>> Now that's just cool...
>> -----------------------
>> Philippe Beaudette
>> Director, Community Advocacy
>> Wikimedia Foundation, Inc
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: MZMcBride <z at mzmcbride.com>
>> Sender: wikimedia-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
>> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 17:41:21
>> To: Wikimedia Mailing List<wikimedia-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>> Reply-To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Info action
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a "Page information" link
>> in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis. It
>> is deployed now to a few wikis already. This "Page information" link leads
>> to a newly reimplemented info action:
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=info
>> 
>> Many, many years ago, the info action was added to MediaWiki, but due to
>> performance issues, it was quickly disabled by default and was mostly
>> forgotten about. This year, with the wonderful help of Madman, Krenair, and
>> others, we have reimplemented the info action to provide an information
>> dashboard of sorts about a particular page title to users.
>> 
>> This dashboard includes a variety of metadata about the page, including the
>> page's protection status, length, default categorization sort key, internal
>> page ID, templates used on the page, and more. The content is somewhat
>> dynamic: for some pages it will omit certain irrelevant fields and for some
>> users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such as the
>> number of page watchers) will be displayed. This will slowly allow for the
>> deprecation of outside tools that currently provide information of this
>> nature.
>> 
>> The hope is that this action will evolve over time to become a valuable
>> resource for users. If you can think of data points that are missing from
>> the current action's output or have other ideas to improve the info action
>> (it desperately needs a little design love), please feel free to e-mail
>> this
>> list or file a bug at <https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/>.
>> 
>> MZMcBride
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:59:50 +0100
> From: Richard Symonds <richard.symonds at wikimedia.org.uk>
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info action
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> 
> MZMcBride,
> 
> This looks fantastic, and very useful! I'm not sure how related this is,
> but is there any way the page can also pull up page views? Or would that be
> a problem? My understanding is that page views puts too much load on the
> servers, so it may well be unworkable...
> 
> It's also be useful to be able to see how many editors, authors etc there
> were in the past 24 hours - again, I'm not sure if this is doable, but I
> thought I'd throw it out there!
> 
> 
> Richard Symonds/Chase me ladies
> 
> 
> On 22 October 2012 22:41, MZMcBride <z at mzmcbride.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a "Page information" link
>> in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis. It
>> is deployed now to a few wikis already. This "Page information" link leads
>> to a newly reimplemented info action:
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=info
>> 
>> Many, many years ago, the info action was added to MediaWiki, but due to
>> performance issues, it was quickly disabled by default and was mostly
>> forgotten about. This year, with the wonderful help of Madman, Krenair, and
>> others, we have reimplemented the info action to provide an information
>> dashboard of sorts about a particular page title to users.
>> 
>> This dashboard includes a variety of metadata about the page, including the
>> page's protection status, length, default categorization sort key, internal
>> page ID, templates used on the page, and more. The content is somewhat
>> dynamic: for some pages it will omit certain irrelevant fields and for some
>> users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such as the
>> number of page watchers) will be displayed. This will slowly allow for the
>> deprecation of outside tools that currently provide information of this
>> nature.
>> 
>> The hope is that this action will evolve over time to become a valuable
>> resource for users. If you can think of data points that are missing from
>> the current action's output or have other ideas to improve the info action
>> (it desperately needs a little design love), please feel free to e-mail
>> this
>> list or file a bug at <https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/>.
>> 
>> MZMcBride
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:15:25 +0100
> From: David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com>
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info action
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> On 23 October 2012 10:59, Richard Symonds
> <richard.symonds at wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
> 
>> This looks fantastic, and very useful! I'm not sure how related this is,
>> but is there any way the page can also pull up page views? Or would that be
>> a problem? My understanding is that page views puts too much load on the
>> servers, so it may well be unworkable...
> 
> 
> History pages on en:wp already have a link to stats.grok.se, shouldn't
> be hard to put such a link here as well.
> 
> 
> - d.
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:29:34 +0100
> From: Andy Mabbett <andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk>
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info action
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> 
> On 22 October 2012 22:41, MZMcBride <z at mzmcbride.com> wrote:
> 
>> This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a "Page information" link
>> in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis.
> 
> This sounds like a really useful feature.
> 
>> for some users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such
>> as the number of page watchers) will be displayed.
> 
> Why is this for admins only?
> 
> -- 
> Andy Mabbett
> @pigsonthewing
> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
> 
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:45:49 +0100
> From: Thomas Morton <morton.thomas at googlemail.com>
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info action
> Message-ID:
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> 
> On 23 October 2012 11:29, Andy Mabbett <andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:
> 
>> On 22 October 2012 22:41, MZMcBride <z at mzmcbride.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a "Page information"
>> link
>>> in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis.
>> 
>> This sounds like a really useful feature.
>> 
>>> for some users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such
>>> as the number of page watchers) will be displayed.
>> 
>> Why is this for admins only?
>> 
> 
> For the same reason Special:UnwatchedPages is Admin-only I presume :) to
> avoid people using this feature to identify unwatched pages to vandalise.
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:53:42 +0200
> From: Przykuta <przykuta at o2.pl>
> To:
> 	=?UTF-8?Q?Wikimedia_Mailing_List?=<wikimedia-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info action
> Message-ID: <5f8d6a27.532d54d6.50867736.bc0b8 at o2.pl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
>>>> for some users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such
>>>> as the number of page watchers) will be displayed.
>>> 
>>> Why is this for admins only?
>>> 
>> 
>> For the same reason Special:UnwatchedPages is Admin-only I presume :) to
>> avoid people using this feature to identify unwatched pages to vandalise.
>> 
>> Tom
> 
> 
> This tool is not only for admins:
> 
> http://toolserver.org/~mzmcbride/watcher/?db=enwiki_p&titles=Main_Page
> 
> ;)
> 
> But it works, if number of watchers > 30
> 
> Przykuta
> 
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