[Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

[Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton]

Now, we have five :D


On 17 October 2012 10:29, Roland Unger <roland.unger em soziologie.uni-halle.de
> wrote:

> > And Portuguese WikiTravel?
> > Which has nearly 3000 articles, ie more than WikiTravel in Spanish,
> which
> > also is not listed, and has more than ru and sv, which were imported.
> > And updates
> > are occurring.
>
> There is up to now no community (5 persons) who helps migrating
> the content.
>
> See:
>
> http://www.wikivoyage.org/general/Interest_in_starting_a_new_language_version
>
> Roland
>
>
>
>
> > On 17 October 2012 08:27, Strainu <strainu10 em gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > 2012/10/17 Roland Unger <roland.unger em soziologie.uni-halle.de>:
> > > >> > 2012/10/17 Juergen Fenn <schneeschmelze em googlemail.com>:
> > > >> >> 2012/10/17 Deryck Chan <deryckchan em wikimedia.hk>:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>> I think Strainu is referring to languages that exist on
> Wikitravel
> > > >> but not
> > > >> >>> Wikivoyage.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Probably a practical question: As Wikitravel closed the API in
> > > August,
> > > >> >> there is probably no more data that Wikivoyage could rescue
> > from the
> > > >> >> project than now is available in Wikivoyage. If a language
> community
> > > >> >> needs a fresh start in Wikivoyage it would have to begin from
> > the
> > > very
> > > >> >> beginning. In this case it would be best to go through Incubator.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> That's not precisely true. With enough determination, the content
> > can
> > > >> be extracted from Wikitravel, even now. Hell, even copy-paste would
> > > >> work to some extent.
> > > >>
> > > >> But I remember that the archive team said they had a dump from
> August
> > > >> 2011 for all the Wikitravel languages and private persons might
> have
> > > >> more recent dumps. Can't those be used?
> > > >
> > > >> 2012/10/17 Tomasz Ganicz <polimerek em gmail.com>:
> > > >> > So, the predictable effect will be that mid-size wikitravel
> language
> > > >> > versions which did not moved to wikivoyage before August will
> rather
> > > >> > stay on Wikitravel. There will be hard to find volunteers in these
> > > >> > langauges ready to go through painful and time consuming
> > process of
> > > >> > incubator as there is already working wiki that anyone can join
> > > >> > without any obstacles...
> > > >>
> > > >> I don't think this is necessarily true, even if it is an important
> > > >> risk and one of the reasons I've asked the questions originally.
> > For
> > > >> instance, the Romanian Wikitravel was virtually dead, but some
> people
> > > >> from ro.wp expressed interest in contributing to the new site if
> > it
> > > >> has a Romanian version.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It's correct that the dumps of all languages from August 2012 are
> > > available
> > > > at Wikivoyage saved as XML files.
> > > >
> > > > But these files could not be used to publish them immediately because
> > > they
> > > > contain a lot of spam which must be removed by the community before.
> > > > But the communities are missing.
> > > >
> > > > In some cases it makes sense to think about establishing a language
> > > > branch from scratch.
> > > >
> > > > See also the interest list at
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> http://www.wikivoyage.org/general/Interest_in_starting_a_new_language_version
> > > >
> > > > at least five authors and admins should show their interest in
> > helping to
> > > > migrate the wikis.
> > >
> > > I personally don't see much value in starting a new project on
> > > Wikivoyage now (except perhaps to avoid the Incubator, which is a more
> > > bureaucratic process). One of the reasons people did not contribute
> > to
> > > Wikitravel was that it was "different" (e.g. different accounts,
> > > extensions etc.)
> > >
> > > Strainu
> > >
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