[Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

[Roland Unger]

> And Portuguese WikiTravel?
> Which has nearly 3000 articles, ie more than WikiTravel in Spanish, which
> also is not listed, and has more than ru and sv, which were imported.
> And updates
> are occurring.

There is up to now no community (5 persons) who helps migrating
the content.

See:
http://www.wikivoyage.org/general/Interest_in_starting_a_new_language_version

Roland




> On 17 October 2012 08:27, Strainu <strainu10 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > 2012/10/17 Roland Unger <roland.unger at soziologie.uni-halle.de>:
> > >> > 2012/10/17 Juergen Fenn <schneeschmelze at googlemail.com>:
> > >> >> 2012/10/17 Deryck Chan <deryckchan at wikimedia.hk>:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> I think Strainu is referring to languages that exist on Wikitravel
> > >> but not
> > >> >>> Wikivoyage.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Probably a practical question: As Wikitravel closed the API in
> > August,
> > >> >> there is probably no more data that Wikivoyage could rescue 
> from the
> > >> >> project than now is available in Wikivoyage. If a language community
> > >> >> needs a fresh start in Wikivoyage it would have to begin from 
> the
> > very
> > >> >> beginning. In this case it would be best to go through Incubator.
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> That's not precisely true. With enough determination, the content 
> can
> > >> be extracted from Wikitravel, even now. Hell, even copy-paste would
> > >> work to some extent.
> > >>
> > >> But I remember that the archive team said they had a dump from August
> > >> 2011 for all the Wikitravel languages and private persons might have
> > >> more recent dumps. Can't those be used?
> > >
> > >> 2012/10/17 Tomasz Ganicz <polimerek at gmail.com>:
> > >> > So, the predictable effect will be that mid-size wikitravel language
> > >> > versions which did not moved to wikivoyage before August will rather
> > >> > stay on Wikitravel. There will be hard to find volunteers in these
> > >> > langauges ready to go through painful and time consuming 
> process of
> > >> > incubator as there is already working wiki that anyone can join
> > >> > without any obstacles...
> > >>
> > >> I don't think this is necessarily true, even if it is an important
> > >> risk and one of the reasons I've asked the questions originally.  
> For
> > >> instance, the Romanian Wikitravel was virtually dead, but some people
> > >> from ro.wp expressed interest in contributing to the new site if 
> it
> > >> has a Romanian version.
> > >
> > >
> > > It's correct that the dumps of all languages from August 2012 are
> > available
> > > at Wikivoyage saved as XML files.
> > >
> > > But these files could not be used to publish them immediately because
> > they
> > > contain a lot of spam which must be removed by the community before.
> > > But the communities are missing.
> > >
> > > In some cases it makes sense to think about establishing a language
> > > branch from scratch.
> > >
> > > See also the interest list at
> > >
> > >
> > http://www.wikivoyage.org/general/Interest_in_starting_a_new_language_version
> > >
> > > at least five authors and admins should show their interest in 
> helping to
> > > migrate the wikis.
> >
> > I personally don't see much value in starting a new project on
> > Wikivoyage now (except perhaps to avoid the Incubator, which is a more
> > bureaucratic process). One of the reasons people did not contribute 
> to
> > Wikitravel was that it was "different" (e.g. different accounts,
> > extensions etc.)
> >
> > Strainu
> >
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