[Wikimedia-l] FDC Proposals

Mon Oct 8 10:04:53 UTC 2012

Hi SJ,
Dear all,

I've have posted WMDE's feedback on the discussion pages, respectively:

a) for the proposal template: http://meta.wikimedia.org/**
wiki/Template_talk:FDC_**proposal_form_v1<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:FDC_proposal_form_v1>

*As to content:*

**The question "Approximately how many volunteers participate actively in
your entity?" is difficult to answer if you don't define what do you
understand as "active participation".*
**In Table 4 we have encountered some problems with describing detailed
activities and accurate indicators as our detailed program planning  for
2013 will take place just in Nov/Dec. Maybe in the future you could point
out what is the required level of detail and if it's OK to give some
general examples.*
**I think the proposal made sense as a whole and most of the questions were
very accurate.*
*
*
*As to technical diffculties:*
*
*The wiki-tables were a killer. Especially in case of WMDE they were so
large that it was really difficult to a) create them  and b) to fill them
in and keep an overview of the code once you wanted to introduce some
changes.*
**Not being able to edit individual sections of the proposal made it extra
difficult as well (each time I tried it the template code appeared and I
had to go back and edit the document as a whole).*
**The initially limited number of table entries (max. 6) was very
problematic when you consider that in some tables we had 15 or more
entries. This problem has been fixed but I would recommend reconsidering
any entry-limitation in the future.*

b) the overall process: http://meta.wikimedia.org/**
wiki/FDC_portal/2012/FDC_**members/Comments<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/2012/FDC_members/Comments>

**Our community members raised the following concern (and we are aware that
this has been discussed also before): all the proposals are available only
in English which makes it very difficult, if not impossible, to read nad
comment on them accurately if you don't speak English or speak it poorly.
This is a major problem if you want to enable a broad community
participation during the process. Although we have offered a translation
service for comments during the public comment phase to our members, we
cannot translate all 13 proposals into German in such a short period of
time (most of the proposal have been posted on the last days before the
deadline and the public comment phase starts directly after). Also the
financial aspect of such translation would have to be considered.*
**Further, our community members pointed out that 2 weeks period is to
short to read, understand and give a reasonable comment on all 13
proposals, especially if they are not in one's native language.*

I've been also wondering whether there has already been an official call
for comments for the worldwide community? I think something like this would
be a good reminder and would motivate people to start commenting on the
proposals (cause there is not much action going on right now).

Best,

Kasia

2012/10/4 Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com>

> Hi,
>
> Thanks for starting this thread, Itzik.  I agree it is a great chance
> to see what different groups are planning for the coming year.  I hope
> those who worked on one of these plans have some energy left to leave
> comments for one another.
>
> I would like to hear from chapters who filled out proposals whether
> they found the process straightforward, and whether / how it changed
> their annual planning.
>
> I would also like to hear from chapters who considered filling out a
> proposal but did not do so: why not?
>
> Regards,
> Sj
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Itzik Edri <itzik at infra.co.il> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Yesterday was the last day to submit proposals to the FDC for round 1
> (and
> > it strange that we didn't saw any reminder email about it..). I think
> it's
> > a great opportunity to see (and give opinion about) the chapters &
> > foundation (core) programs and budget plans for 2013 (although it seem
> like
> > not everyone finished filling out the forms):
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Proposals
> >
> >
> > Itzik
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