[Wikimedia-l] Updated Terms of Use

Nathan nawrich at gmail.com
Tue May 1 13:47:53 UTC 2012


Richard, you removed some relevant language:

"Certain activities, whether legal or illegal, may be harmful to other
users and violate our rules, and some activities may also subject you to
liability. Therefore, for your own protection and for that of other users, *you
may not engage in such activities on our sites*. These activities include:
[..] Using the services in a manner that is inconsistent with applicable
law."


I think that expecting the ToS to condone violations of laws that are in
some way "anti-freedom" is unrealistic. It seems like it would be difficult
to craft language to do that well.

~Nathan

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Richard Symonds <
richard.symonds at wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

> I don't think it does say that, or if it does, I can't see where. You're
> certainly liable if you break a law in your own country, but I don't think
> you've broken the terms of use. It says that
>
> > "Certain activites may subject you to liabilities... [for example] using
> > the services in a manner that is inconsistent with applicable law."
>
>
> This means, to my eyes, that you're potentially liable (to someone) if you
> break the law in your own country - which makes perfect sense to me.
>
> But then, I am not a lawyer, nor do I work for the WMF.
>
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