[Foundation-l] Image filter

[Thomas Morton]

Yes, this is the critical thing.

We work reasonably well as a repository of *all knowledge*. As Nathan says,
that is still imperfect, but out of scope of this discussion (I'd certainly
recommend looking into it though).

We also work quite well as a filter of information. And it is improving
this that we are currently discussing.

Improving the filtering of information is a critical facet of making it
accessible to as many people as possible. If a Muslim refuses to go to
Wikipedia because of our image policy - which we (realistically) impose on
him - then we have failed in our core objective.

@Nathan;

> It does that already, in a lot of ways.

True, but that is not the intended mission. They day that happens, that is
a terrible day.

Tom

On 9 March 2012 14:06, Neil Babbage <neil at thebabbages.com> wrote:

>
> And it misses the point that the purpose of providing knowledge is for it
> to be used. Wikimedia projects will be unavailable to those who would
> benefit from them if they continue to provide content that is unsuitable or
> unwanted with no mechanism for the consumer to control it.
>
> If you ran a charity store committed to providing educational products
> free to all who needed them you wouldn't get many children as customers if
> you put hardcore sex products right by the entrance. You also wouldn't
> manage to give anything away if nobody could find what they wanted
>
> Wikimedia is not supposed to be some kind of exercise in perfection for
> perfection's sake. It's supposed to be open, accessible and useful.
>
>
>
> Neil / QuiteUnusual at Wikibooks
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nathan <nawrich at gmail.com>
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> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 08:50:57
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> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter
>
> On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 5:30 AM, Thomas Morton
> <morton.thomas at googlemail.com>wrote:
>
> > >
> > > Give as a clear message, that Wikipedia/Wikimedia will never assist in
> > > hiding knowledge.
> > >
> >
> > The day that Wiki*edia changes its mission from providing access to free
> > knowledge to "enforcing our view of knowledge on you", would be a
> saddening
> > day.
> >
> > Tom
> >
>
> It does that already, in a lot of ways. As catholic as it attempts to be,
> the "knowledge paradigm" that Wikimedia represents is only a small sliver
> of the sum of knowledge in the world. That's just one way in which it
> enforces its view of knowledge; acceding to or refusing to filter content
> in any way is also enforcing a particular view of both knowledge and the
> world. It would do both sides well to approach this argument with a little
> less arrogance and self-righteousness.
>
> Nathan
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