[Wikimedia-l] Language links and double language links on the Wikipedias

[Denny Vrandečić]

Hi Bence,

yes, I am thinking about rerunning the script and removing comments
first. Didn't work out yesterday, I had a bug in my script, and
noticed that only in the morning when it was already almost finished.
Let's see when I have the time for the update. (Or if someone else
picks up the code and does it).

Thanks for the comments,
Cheers,
Denny

2012/6/25 Bence Damokos <bdamokos at gmail.com>:
> Hi Denny,
>
> This is a really interesting list.
> Looking at the Hungarian list, I find that in many instances the duplicate
> interwiki link is actually commented out (in the form of "<!-- Source:
> [[en: something]] --> or <!-- wrong interwikis: [[en: ..] [[fr: ..]] -->),
> and not real duplicate links. (In some cases there are indeed duplicate
> links, where one concept covers two concepts in other languages.)
>
> Maybe you could refine your search algorithm to exclude commented out
> links, and improve your listing page by including not only the second
> interwiki link found for a given language, but also the first one, so it is
> easier to assess without having to check the article pages or source codes?
>
> In any case, the village pumps might be a good place to post a link to the
> lists. The "Global message delivery" system might help you in that:
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery
>
> Best regards,
> Bence
>
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Denny Vrandečić <
> denny.vrandecic at wikimedia.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I ran some analysis last week, to get some numbers out of the
>> Wikipedia language links. One type of reports that were generated was
>> the list of all articles in the main namespaces of the Wikipedias that
>> link to more than one article in another language edition of Wikipedia
>> (so called double language links). There are not that many of them
>> (about 19,000 in total), split by language, all available here:
>>
>> <http://simia.net/languagelinks/>
>>
>> Double language links are not errors per se, but they contain a few
>> nuisances
>> * they lead to two links in the language links list that just look the
>> same (you have to hover over them to see that they link to different
>> languages), which is not really optimal from the user experience side
>> * they are not saved in the langlinks table and thus are ignored in
>> certain reports and also in the respective export
>>
>> I am not sure how to reach out to the respective Wikipedia
>> communities, or if I should at all. Should I post to their respective
>> version of the village pump? Remembering from the time I was active on
>> the Croatian Wikipedia, I would have appreciated that list to check
>> the entries. I reckoned the wikipedia-l list would be the right place,
>> but that list looks rather dead.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Denny
>>
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Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das
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