[Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

Mon Jun 11 05:44:40 UTC 2012

Hi,

About copyright , the articles do not contain "G12. Unambiguous copyright
infringement.", I can only trust the category system from wikipedia is
working. I am willing to help fine tune the speedy deletion system to be
specific about what articles are original copyrighted material.

there is more work to do on attribution, the dumps on archive.org does
contain an attribution of wikipedia in general and the creative commones
license for the entire bucket,
http://archive.org/details/wikipedia-delete-2012-05
http://archive.org/details/wikipedia-delete-2012-06

The individual users names are only visible in the data files, I assume we
could collect them..

For the wikia, at this point I am using the standard wikia template
http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Wikipedia-deleted, so the
articles should have a text like this and the name of the last author :
 [image: Smallwikipedialogo.png] This page uses content that was added to *
Wikipedia* <http://en.wikipedia.org/>. The article has been deleted from
Wikipedia. The original article was written by these Wikipedia users:
Ammodramus.
As with this wiki (Speedy deletion Wiki), the text of Wikipedia is
available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported
License <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/>.

Again the full history is available on archive.org and i think that no one
is going to think that this data is from me, it is clearly marked as being
from wikipedia.

mike

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:27 AM, Risker <risker.wp at gmail.com> wrote:

> How are you attributing the work and ensuring that the license conditions
> are met?
>
> Risker
>
> On 11 June 2012 01:24, Mike Dupont <jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > good question,
> > The raw data is not lost : the archive.org will get a snapshot every 30
> > minutes of the items that are categorized.
> >
> > the wikia right now will not be updated: There is not any code for the
> > updating of the article, once it is in the wikia.
> >
> > I would be interesting to get the full history of each article, if it is
> > replaced after deletion, i suppose that a new page or subpage would be
> > needed if it is deleted again, maybe a fine history would be good enough.
> >
> >
> > In any case if articles last more than 30 minutes in the speedy deletion
> > category they will be archived.
> >
> > mike
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Nathan <nawrich at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > What happens to your system if an article is deleted from Wikipedia, a
> > new
> > > article is posted again under the same name, and then that one is also
> > > deleted?
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Mike Dupont <
> > > jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Kirill Lokshin <
> > > kirill.lokshin at gmail.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > This is where I think things become slightly problematic.  There
> are,
> > > in
> > > > > broad terms, two categories of hoaxes: those which are
> fundamentally
> > > > > harmless (these typically being of the "did you know that
> 'gullible'
> > > > isn't
> > > > > in the dictionary" variety), and those which have the potential to
> be
> > > > > harmful (including, but not limited to, false statements about
> drugs,
> > > > > crimes, politically explosive issues, etc.).  The speedy deletion
> > > system
> > > > > makes no real attempt to distinguish between these (with the
> > exception
> > > of
> > > > > blatant attacks on living people, which have their own deletion
> tag),
> > > but
> > > > > retaining the second category in a publicly-viewable (and
> > > > > publicly-searcheable?) form is probably not desirable.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > I am willing to delete articles from the wikia, they are also
> archived
> > on
> > > > archive.org.
> > > > it would be nice to work out a detailed tagging system to work out
> what
> > > may
> > > > be archived and what not.
> > > > We can remove categories and add them.
> > > >
> > > > But lets look at some of these,
> > > > http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/Ipod_5.5_generation this looks
> > like
> > > > someone who is providing infomation in the wrong way, but could be
> > valid.
> > > > http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/Trantlers this is funny and
> would
> > > > like
> > > > to keep it and add a picture of it, maybe to a humor section. this
> one
> > > too
> > > > http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/Trantlas
> > > >
> > > > http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/Willyfor this is strange , but
> > > might
> > > > be some meme or urban legend. I guess unencylopedia.
> > > > http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/Like_Dis_Like_Dat same here,
> this
> > > is
> > > > also unencylopedia material.
> > > >
> > > > now this looks like a hoax , and could be deleted, but also
> > unencylopedia
> > > > stuff.
> > > > http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/Aman_hadid
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > personally I am interested in non notable articles, my experience
> with
> > > > dealing with encouraging editors and collection creative commons
> > licensed
> > > > information
> > > > on places that are not very notable like villages in kosovo could be
> > > helped
> > > > with these articles.
> > > > if we can find authors who are willing to write about non notable
> > topics,
> > > > maybe we can collect them and categorize them.
> > > > this could be a recruiting mechanism and also provide good basic data
> > and
> > > > maybe new contributors for wikitravel and openstreetmap.
> > > > with a staging system like this speedydeletion wikia you will have a
> > way
> > > to
> > > > demote articles to the speedy deletion purgatory where they might
> > redeem
> > > > themselves.
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