[Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

Lodewijk lodewijk at effeietsanders.org
Tue Jul 24 19:40:15 UTC 2012

Would it make sense to start a more thorough long term lobby on this issue?
Considering that this will be a returning issue every two years, I guess
that would be worth the trouble...


2012/7/24 Tomasz Ganicz <polimerek at gmail.com>

> 2012/7/24 Cristian Consonni <kikkocristian at gmail.com>:
> > 2012/7/24 Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni at mail.huji.ac.il>:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> The Olympic games are beginning soon. Apparently, ticket holders
> >> cannot use photo equipment longer than 30cm and cannot use the photos
> >> and videos for commercial purposes without accreditation.
> >>
> >> Practically everything that happens at the Olympics is notable and
> >> should be on Wikipedia, Commons, etc. Does anybody know whether there
> >> are professional accredited photographers who are Wikimedia-friendly
> >> and plan to upload their photos? If there aren't any, does anybody
> >> know whether a Wikipedian can obtain such accreditation?
> >>
> >> This doesn't concern me directly, but there are many, many people who
> >> write Wikipedia articles about sports in all languages and it may be
> >> interesting to them. Also, it may be a frequent issue in sports and
> >> I'm just not aware of it because I rarely follow sports.
> >>
> >> Sources for the restrictions:
> >> * http://www.tickets.london2012.com/purchaseterms.html
> >> * PDF: http://j.mp/london2012prohibited
> >
> > I think this another layer of problems besides copyright, with
> > CC-BY-SA the author grants permission to reuse the photo also for
> > commercial purposes without requesting permission to the author. But
> > there are many other layers of rights which could interfere with the
> > free (or better the "anarchic") reuse of a photo. For example I think
> > that using an image of Usain Bolt to promote a book without explicit
> > permission from the athlete (or his agent) is anyhow unlawful even if
> > the photo was taken, for example, in the street and freely licensed.
> > That said I think with can treat photo from the Olympics in a similar
> > way as we do for photos with "personality rights", we could put a
> > template saying "Olympics photo warning: to reuse for commercial
> > purposes this photo you should obtain permission from IOC and/or
> > individuals depicted in the photo".
> > The point is that the author of the photo allows for it the widest
> > possible reuse permitted by CC-BY-SA, thus sharing part of its
> > copyright with others,  but if one wants to use the photo for
> > commercial purposes that he should go (himself, not the author)
> > through the hassle of obtaining permission from the relevant subjects.
> >
> > Could it work?
> >
> No. CC-BY-SA clearly allows for commercial use of works, and there is
> also clause that the licence cannot be accompanied by extra
> restrictions which are not compatible with the licence.  However,
> CC-BY-SA is only copyrights licence, so all other legal restrictionz
> are still in power. For example: using someone's face in big-scale
> commercial or political campaign may be treated as a infringement of
> personal rights, even if the face is taken from CC-BY-SA picture...
> --
> Tomek "Polimerek" Ganicz
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