[Foundation-l] Movement roles letter, Feb 2012

[Jan-bart de Vreede]

this would be called: too much drama

There is no life and death situation for "the chapters here". See my earlier mails for ways of getting to a sustainable organization...

Secondly: When faced with a  life or death situation, most people try to trick death and stay alive.. most don't repeat: "I am going to die" for weeks on end.

In short: Come up with conditions that can make this work for you, try to think in opportunities rather that not think at all.

Jan-Bart


On 15 feb. 2012, at 14:47, Béria Lima wrote:

> Serious that you can't see the good side in ask the chapters, Bishakha?
> You're after all deciding their lifes or death, can't we at least choose
> the way we are going to die?
> _____
> *Béria Lima*
> 
> *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
> construir esse sonho. <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>*
> 
> 
> On 15 February 2012 05:30, Bishakha Datta <bishakhadatta at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Ziko van Dijk <vandijk at wmnederland.nl
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 2012/2/14 Jan-Bart de Vreede <jdevreede at wikimedia.org>:
>>>> It is clear to me that there is a close link between the
>>> fundraising/dissemination discussion and the increased options of
>>> "organising" ourselves. I am also convinced that we
>>> 
>>> Indeed, and it may not be a coincidence that these two letters came
>>> out more or less at the same time. :-) I find it good that the WMF
>>> board is taking up these discussions and opens them again.
>>> 
>>> How about asking the *official* opinion of the chapters, within a
>>> certain time frame (e.g. 1 or 2 months)?
>> 
>> 
>> Meaning? I continue to think it would be great if we had a wide range of
>> opinion on this - both from chapters and from others in the movement.
>> 
>> Because the MR process has gone on for so long, I'm personally sceptical of
>> extending the deadline. (I'm not convinced we will actually get more
>> discussion with more time - that has not necessarily been the history of MR
>> since 2010 July, when it began.
>> 
>> So at this moment, I'm leaning towards a one-month focused period of
>> discussion.
>> 
>> Best
>> Bishakha
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Then we would have a more
>>> substantial and reliable feedback, compared to the mails on a
>>> mailinglist or talk page comments, all done by people as individuals.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> Ziko
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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