[Foundation-l] Fw: Strike against the collection of personal data through edit links

[Brandon Harris]

	I'm not sure why this couldn't be done if that were all that is being 
measured.  I suspect there's other behaviors being tracked.

	As I said, I'm not the person who knows most about this, so you have to 
take what I am saying with a grain of salt.


On 2/4/12 5:21 PM, WereSpielChequers wrote:
> Hi Brandon, thanks for the explanation, but wouldn't it be easier to just
> analyse edit summaries? If you edit by section the edit summary defaults to
> start with the section heading.......
>
> Were SpielChequers
>
> Message: 7
>> Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2012 14:51:49 -0800
>> From: Brandon Harris<bharris at wikimedia.org>
>> To: foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Fw: Strike against the collection of
>>         personal data through edit links
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>>
>>         (This may not be 100% accurate; the person who knows most about
>> this is
>> on vacation, but I'll try to explain to the best of my understanding.)
>>
>>         Those weird URLs are part of a clicktracking process.  It's a test
>> to
>> see how people go about editing the page *most often* (by section, or by
>> edit tab) and further to see how effective various calls-to-action (such
>> as those given by Article Feedback) are.
>>
>>         The longevity of the data isn't something I can comment to but I'd
>> be
>> surprised if it lasted even 3 months.  I do not know if there are
>> identity markers connected to them but I wouldn't be surprised.
>>
>>         To that end, the data is only useful in roll-ups, and wouldn't be
>> something published anywhere except in aggregate.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/4/12 2:27 PM, Philippe Beaudette wrote:
>>> MZ is correct:  3 months is the purge for Checkuser data.
>>>
>>> As to the rest of it, Diederick van Liere, our resident guru of data,
>> will
>>> be checking into this, and will confirm back when we know exactly wht is
>>> intended by the devs for that data.  I will say that generally speaking,
>>> the Foundation prefers to maintain the minimum data possible for the
>>> shortest period of time.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> pb
>>> ___________________
>>> Philippe Beaudette
>>> Head of Reader Relations
>>> Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
>>>
>>> 415-839-6885, x 6643
>>>
>>> philippe at wikimedia.org
>>>
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>> to
>>> respond), go to http://courteous.ly/hpQmqy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 2:19 PM, MZMcBride<z at mzmcbride.com>   wrote:
>>>
>>>> Fred Bauder wrote:
>>>>> David Gerard wrote:
>>>>>> 3 months I can live with :-) Can someone from WMF just confirm what
>> data
>>>>>> is kept for how long?
>>>>>
>>>>> The exact time is confidential.
>>>>
>>>> Err, no, I don't think so. It's not defined in the files at
>>>> <http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/>, which means it should be using the
>>>> default, as defined at
>>>> <
>>>>
>> http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/CheckUser/CheckU
>>>> ser.php?revision=106556&view=markup>. From that file:
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> # How long to keep CU data?
>>>> $wgCUDMaxAge = 3 * 30 * 24 * 3600; // 3 months
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> The last attempt to change this value (without community discussion) was
>>>> summarily shot down:
>>>> <http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=revision&revision=40847
>>> .
>>>>
>>>> That's only CheckUser data, though. I'm not sure what David wants
>> confirmed
>>>> from the Wikimedia Foundation. Different data has different expiries. A
>> lot
>>>> of it is permanent (e.g., revisions aren't going anywhere for the most
>>>> part). I guess the question is specific to the ClickTracking extension:
>>>> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ClickTracking>?
>>>>
>>>> MZMcBride
>>>>
>>>>
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