[Wikimedia-l] "Wikipedia in the classroom" in Guarani language

[Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton]

First: correction ->  "in Guarani, an indigenous language spoken in
Northern Argentina, Paraguay, Bolivia" and *Brazil*

Second:correct link ->
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Vikipet%C3%A3_mbo%27eha_kot%C3%BDpe.pdf

Third: I just found it odd, producing a material that advances borders, and
not invite others to work together, since you say that the idea of cooperation
group (Iberocoop) was WMAR who invented.



On 17 December 2012 10:32, Osmar Valdebenito <osmar em wikimediachile.cl>wrote:

> I totally agree with you. That's why we also had activities with native
> speakers of Guarani, Aymara and Mapudungun in Buenos Aires teaching them
> about Wikipedia and now we are giving another step. We are not saying that
> with "Wikipedia in the classroom" everything is done.
>
> We, as Iberocoop members, have discussed the approach with indigenous
> languages in different opportunities (especially in Iberoconf 2012 in
> Santiago) and we know that chapters should help the communities to develop
> their own projects, and not replace them, considering none of us are native
> speakers. Of course, I have learnt (in my case) some Mapudungun and I can
> help editing, but it is not our goal. Wikimedia Venezuela has been doing a
> great job with Wayuunaki speakers and also Wikimedia Mexico with different
> languages (I'm not sure and probably Iván can correct me, but I think the
> Yucatec was one of them). Wikimedia Chile contacted several Mapuche
> organizations for the development of the Mapudungun Wikipedia and Wikimedia
> Argentina has been doing the same in the past years.
>
> Osmar Valdebenito G.
>
>
>
> 2012/12/16 M. Williamson <node.ue em gmail.com>
>
> > I think an even better initiative would be to involve native speakers
> > in writing articles and taking leadership positions at the Guarani
> > Wikipedia. It is currently written exclusively by language
> > learner-enthusiasts, although they do receive occasional help from
> > Ateneo de Lengua y Cultura Guaraní. There are no native speaker admins
> > either, as far as I am aware.
> >
> > This is a tragedy, considering Guaraní is the main language of
> > Paraguay, it is official in two countries (Paraguay and Bolivia) and
> > in some provinces in a third (Argentina) and widely used in Brazil as
> > well.
> >
> > In fact, why do we never hear the fact that none of the Wikipedias in
> > indigenous languages of the Americas are currently written or
> > administered by actual native speakers of those languages (again, as
> > far as I know, and with the exception of one native speaking former
> > editor on the Navajo Wikipedia)? The one Wikipedia that has made
> > promising progress towards breaking this unfortunate pattern is the
> > Yucatec Wikipedia, which unfortunately has been kept ghettoized in the
> > incubator by the overly restrictive policies enforced by a couple of
> > members of Langcom, in spite of the community interest and
> > participation in the project.
> >
> > Wikipedia will never take off in non-European minority languages if it
> > is exclusively written and administered by outsiders.
> >
> > (I should add that many of the editors and administrators have done
> > great work, and written lots of quality articles; in the case of the
> > Navajo and Quechua Wikipedias, I know them to be competent,
> > expert-level speakers of the languages, but unfortunately this is
> > still not a viable replacement for the native speaker involvement - it
> > is a good complement to it, but not a replacement)
> >
> > Can you imagine the Spanish Wikipedia written _only_ by people
> > studying Spanish as a second language? Could it ever become a major
> > reference work for native speakers, if that were the case?
> >
> > 2012/12/16, Osmar Valdebenito <osmar em wikimediachile.cl>:
> > > This week, Wikimedia Argentina published the first edition of "Vikipetã
> > > mbo'eha kotýpe" [1], "Wikipedia in the classroom" in Guarani, an
> > indigenous
> > > language spoken in Northern Argentina, Paraguay and Bolivia. It is the
> > > first Wikipedia related publication made in an American indigenous
> > > language.
> > >
> > > The goal of “Wikipedia in the classroom”, made originally in Spanish,
> is
> > to
> > > help teachers to understand what is Wikipedia, how it works and how
> they
> > > can use it in an useful way. Most students already use Wikipedia so it
> is
> > > really important that teachers know what to do.
> > >
> > > “Wikipedia in the classroom” is an initiative launched in 2010 by
> > Wikimedia
> > > Argentina with the support of different institutions, including the
> > > Education portal of the Argentine government, educ.ar. They released
> an
> > > special website about the project.[2] Wikimedia Argentina will print
> 500
> > > booklets of the Guarani edition to be distributed in schools and other
> > > educational institutions, and we expect to publish new editions in
> other
> > > indigenous languages in 2013.
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > >
> > > Osmar Valdebenito G.
> > > Director Ejecutivo
> > > A. C. Wikimedia Argentina
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Vikipet%C3%A3_mbo%27eha_kot%C3%BDpe.jpg
> > > [2] http://wikipediaenelaula.educ.ar/
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