[Wikimedia-l] Banners are too bright, too long

Todd Allen toddmallen at gmail.com
Tue Dec 4 19:09:42 UTC 2012

That's nice and all, but there should also be no "sticking". When I scroll
a page, I expect the -entire page- to scroll. Anything that breaks that and
"moves with" or "sticks with" the page is extremely visually distracting
and gets hit with AdBlock at once, even if it's just a "Share This" bar. It
indicates either poor design or an attempt to deliberately distract, and
either is unacceptable. If that means "more days" of banners that can be
scrolled past, more days it is. And no, I'm not the only one I know who
thinks so.

Also on the subject of flow:

A: Because it reverses the normal reading flow.

Q: Why is bottom-posting bad?


Todd Allen

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Zack Exley <zexley at wikimedia.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Jon Robson <jdlrobson at gmail.com> wrote:
> > From as I understand it the main problems with the sticky banners seem to
> > be due to several bugs related to it being sticky. Sticky banners do
> have a
> > habit of taking a life of their own and obscuring content. They cause me
> a
> > lot of pain as a developer and are hard to get right. The auto expansion
> on
> > hover is very confusing and does not meet my expectations as a user of
> how
> > it should behave (to the point I came close to raising a bug assuming it
> > was misbehaving). I also encountered a bug which stopped me from sharing
> > content [1].
> >
> Just to repeat: The auto-expanding ones are dead.
> >
> > We have to work with facts though and if they perform better we should be
> > iterating on these banners and improving them so that we still get the
> > benefits of a shorter fundraiser and do not upset our users. Good work to
> > everyone involved that has made this fundraiser so successful with that
> > insight.
> >
> > I'd be interested to know whether a sticky banner that moves to the side
> of
> > the screen out of the way of content as the user scrolls was equally
> > effective at getting lots of donations and reducing annoyance that some
> > people have obviously been having. I look forward to seeing more
> > experimentation.
> >
> > [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42651
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