[Wikimedia-l] Should we lock StrategyWiki?

[Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton]

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I don't see any reason for changes...

On 13 August 2012 22:18, James Alexander <jalexander em wikimedia.org> wrote:

> I'll weigh in on wiki later today or tomorrow (I've been very sick and
> haven't been on much) but I did want to put in a couple of my thoughts:
>
>
>    - Part of me doesn't have an enormous issue with merging content into
>    meta if people really want it though I don't think it helps much
>    - I think creating StrategyWiki as it's own entity when it was done
>    was necessary and important. I don't think the strategy process would
> have
>    been as successful without doing it.
>    - I don't think that creating strategyWiki was part of a 'fad' by the
>    foundation or others to create new wikis. We have certainly
>    created separate wikis which I do not think needed to be made (and hurt
>    their purpose) but Strategy was not one of them and, if anything, was
> the
>    'start' of the fad and, like most fad starters, was the one with the
>    most legitimate reasons. Everyone follows the trendsetter because they
> want
>    their results, but forget that they're different.
>    - There are many reasons the separate wiki was/is good but to keep it
>    short I'll give the biggest one: The StrategyWiki required a fresh
>    community with as much activity and new blood as possible from around
> the
>    projects and the movement as a whole. Meta was not, and is not, a fresh
>    community. It does many things well but it is still it's own community
> with
>    it's own rules and structure. Sadly you just can't invite a fresh, new
>    community into an old community (it's the same reason the travelWiki
>    proposers were saying that it would be best to start off with a fresh,
> new,
>    name etc). I don't think it would have done as well if it didn't have
> the
>    flexibility that a new community allowed (turning on liquid threads for
>    example etc).
>
>
> Overall I think the strategy project actually showed that splitting off to
> a new wiki can be helpful at times and I think that it should be done for
> the new strategy plan (likely to start next year, at the latest, I'd
> imagine) should do the same and either use Strategy or a new wiki. Using
> Strategy would probably be best and keeping the historic pages could be
> helpful.
>
> James
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Mono <monomium em gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Please weigh in at
> >
> >
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_Strategy_Wiki
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Katie Chan <ktc em ktchan.info> wrote:
> >
> > > On 12/08/2012 16:45, MZMcBride wrote:
> > >
> > >> Ziko van Dijk wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> It seems to me that there was a period in the WMF history when it was
> > >>> "popular" to install new wikis, for strategy or outreach, instead of
> > >>> using Meta. I don't see the advantages of having seperate wikis, or
> > >>> disadvantages of Meta. Meta has always been the platform for the
> whole
> > >>> movement, not only the wiki content websites. By the way, the WCA
> > >>> decided not to have a wiki of its own but to use Meta.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> I'm not sure what a WCA is.
> > >>
> > >>
> > > <http://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Wikimedia_Chapters_**Association<
> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Chapters_Association>
> > > >?
> > >
> > > KTC
> > >
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