[Foundation-l] Paypal removal?

FT2 ft2.wiki at gmail.com
Sat Dec 11 13:43:40 UTC 2010


Removing paypal etc would be equivalent to a statement "WMF supports
wikileaks". Unless we would make that statement formally as well, this
discussion goes nowhere. Much as I personally support them, this isn't WMF's
business and can only harm the project to make a formal stand.

Individual users may wish to make a stand though. (without dragging WP/M
into it).

FT2

On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 12:39 PM, aude <aude.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Dec 11, 2010, at 12:31 AM, Robert Tice <robtice2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I suggest that use of Paypal is contraindicated due to their
> > deliberate
> > efforts to inhibit the spread of information by closing their
> > account with
> > Wikileaks.  It is inappropriate for Wiki to be associated with
> > Paypal or
> > Amazon.com.  These corporations are the opposite of what Wikipedia and
> > associated entities hope to be or currently are.  Closing the
> > account with
> > Paypal will also send a message to Amazon that there are
> > consequences to
> > efforts to censor the knowledge base of humanity.
> >
> > Thanks for reading this.  I hope to see debate and action on this
> > proposal.
>
> I don't think we should stop using paypal because of this.
>
> WMF should not take a stance one way or another on the wikileaks issue
> other than to remind people that wikipedia != wikileaks and we don't
> run wikileaks. (most people I think understand but also think there is
> plenty of misunderstanding out there about this)
>
> Though it's a wikipedia policy, I think wp:npov should definitely be a
> guiding principle in this situation.
>
> Removing paypal would be a bad idea, in my opinion
>
> -aude
>
> PS - I do know that our credit card payments are also handled behind
> the scenes by paypal.
>
> >
> > Robert T.
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