[Foundation-l] New projects opened

[dex2000]

The merits of localization aside, making localization for the Danish Wiki a
reason for its lagging behind the other Nordic Wikis is really beside the
point. As an old-timer on da:, I can confirm that meeting untranslated or
bad messages on the Danish Wikipedia is a very unusual experience.

For the record, the Danish Wikipedia is doing fine. I¨m sure that it¨s level
of "ridiculous articles" is in no way  different from any other Wikipedia. A
Danish newspaper recently made an informal comparison between the "official"
encyclopedia "Den store danske" on the internet and the Danish Wikipedia,
where Wikipedia came out on top.

I recommend anybody really concerned about the state of the Danish language
and/or the state of the Danish Wikipedia to write and correct articles. It
will pay off better than doing localization.

Allow me to suggest that some explanation for the lag in article numbers and
contributors is the fact that Danish summers are more sunny and winters less
severe than is the case in our northern neighbourhood :-) .

/Sir48-Thyge

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2009/8/21 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen <cimonavaro at gmail.com>:
> Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>> Hoi,
>> Given that on Februari first 96.07% of the most used messages were
>> localised, it is clear that some of the most used messages were not even
>> localised. Consequently your puh puh reaction that only the rare messages
>> are affected is not correct.
>>
> Not all of the messages which are not included in "most used"
> are rare, and not all messages that are in the "most used"
> messages pile are ones that beginning editors are bound to
> encounter.
>
> So I do think Kaare is spot on to suggest it is an extraordinary
> claim that lack of localizations is driving away Danish editors,
> and as such requires extraordinary proof! Have there been
> beginning Danish wiki-editors complaining about the poor
> localization level?

I am would not claim myself to be a "beginning Danish wiki-editor",
but I am certainly complaining about the localisation of the Danish
MediaWiki.  If it wasn't obvious spelling mistakes, it was often odd
direct translations from English, without much consideration of
context.

If I were a beginning Danish wiki-editor, I would see this as
unprofessional - something which I already do in my current position -
and as a result, probably leave, or contribute less than I had
intended.

It's unfortunate to see less and less Danes taking Danish serious
enough, with English's slow integration into the Danish language.
Many things can be translated, but not necessarily everything should.

It's a balance.

/Svip

Furthermore, I think Carthage must be destroyed.

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>
> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
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