[Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 14

Mardetanha mardetanha.wiki at gmail.com
Thu Nov 3 09:26:01 UTC 2011


Far is a very relative term, I have to Go to Tehran (350 KM away from my
city) 2 hour flight to dubai, each times costs almost 500$
Mardetanha


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> heh, so true, it's just informations...
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> Say, is UAE pretty far from your place?
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> 2011/11/2 Mardetanha <mardetanha.wiki at gmail.com>
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> > I am afriad that virtual embassy also issues virtual visas. it still just
> > a word nothing solid yet
> > Mardetanha
> >
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> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 3:02 AM, <wikimania-l-request at lists.wikimedia.org
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> >>   1. Re: Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4 (B?ria Lima)
> >>   2. Re: Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4 (Justin Quintal)
> >>   3. Re: Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4 (Mateus Nobre)
> >>   4. Re: Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4 (Justin Quintal)
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> >> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:31:37 +0000
> >> From: B?ria Lima <berialima at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4
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> >> Sorry Roan, I wanted to say the same thing you did but i failed.
> >>
> >> 2nd attempt: Citizens from any other country, with a canadian visa,
> still
> >> need a USA visa to get into USA.
> >>
> >> Or more detailed in Roan's mail ;)
> >> _____
> >> *B?ria Lima*
> >> <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484
> >>
> >> *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> >> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que
> >> estamos a fazer <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos>.*
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2 November 2011 10:35, Roan Kattouw <roan.kattouw at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:04 AM, B?ria Lima <berialima at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > Justin, canadians also need visa to be in USA, so ask for a
> canandian
> >> > visa
> >> > > doesn't help.
> >> > Canadians don't need a visa for most short visits. But by "Canadians"
> >> > I mean people with a Canadian passport. If you have a Brazilian
> >> > passport, it doesn't matter how you enter the US (by air, land or sea,
> >> > directly from Brazil or via Canada), you will need a US visa. A
> >> > Canadian visa won't help you get into the US at all: the US and Canada
> >> > are separate countries with border controls between them (the border
> >> > isn't open like the one between the UK and Ireland, or the borders
> >> > between Schengen countries in Europe).
> >> >
> >> > That said, I hear it's possible to get a visa from a US consulate in
> >> > Canada, which I presume will have shorter waiting times than some
> >> > consulates elsewhere. But this is probably not allowed in most
> >> > circumstances if you're not a Canadian citizen. In the OP's case where
> >> > his country of citizenship doesn't have a consulate or embassy and
> >> > he's gonna have to apply in a third country anyway, it might just be
> >> > allowed, I guess. But Canada is a lot farther from Iran than Turkey or
> >> > the UAE and doesn't have visa-free travel for Iranians either, so
> >> > you'd have to get a visa in order to get a visa :P . I wouldn't know
> >> > what sort of choice you have in choosing the country where you apply
> >> > for a visa and whether you're allowed to apply in a country farther
> >> > away from Iran where waiting times are shorter. You should probably
> >> > talk to an immigration lawyer about that sort of thing.
> >> >
> >> > Roan
> >> >
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> >> From: Justin Quintal <cestmoijustin at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4
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> >> Yeah, i heard that USA is going to open a virtual embassy for Iran...
> >>
> >> 2011/11/2 B?ria Lima <berialima at gmail.com>
> >>
> >> > Sorry Roan, I wanted to say the same thing you did but i failed.
> >> >
> >> > 2nd attempt: Citizens from any other country, with a canadian visa,
> >> > still  need a USA visa to get into USA.
> >> >
> >> > Or more detailed in Roan's mail ;)
> >> >
> >> > _____
> >> > *B?ria Lima*
> >> > <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484
> >> >
> >> > *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> >> > livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que
> >> > estamos a fazer <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos
> >.*
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 2 November 2011 10:35, Roan Kattouw <roan.kattouw at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:04 AM, B?ria Lima <berialima at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> > Justin, canadians also need visa to be in USA, so ask for a
> canandian
> >> >> visa
> >> >> > doesn't help.
> >> >> Canadians don't need a visa for most short visits. But by "Canadians"
> >> >> I mean people with a Canadian passport. If you have a Brazilian
> >> >> passport, it doesn't matter how you enter the US (by air, land or
> sea,
> >> >> directly from Brazil or via Canada), you will need a US visa. A
> >> >> Canadian visa won't help you get into the US at all: the US and
> Canada
> >> >> are separate countries with border controls between them (the border
> >> >> isn't open like the one between the UK and Ireland, or the borders
> >> >> between Schengen countries in Europe).
> >> >>
> >> >> That said, I hear it's possible to get a visa from a US consulate in
> >> >> Canada, which I presume will have shorter waiting times than some
> >> >> consulates elsewhere. But this is probably not allowed in most
> >> >> circumstances if you're not a Canadian citizen. In the OP's case
> where
> >> >> his country of citizenship doesn't have a consulate or embassy and
> >> >> he's gonna have to apply in a third country anyway, it might just be
> >> >> allowed, I guess. But Canada is a lot farther from Iran than Turkey
> or
> >> >> the UAE and doesn't have visa-free travel for Iranians either, so
> >> >> you'd have to get a visa in order to get a visa :P . I wouldn't know
> >> >> what sort of choice you have in choosing the country where you apply
> >> >> for a visa and whether you're allowed to apply in a country farther
> >> >> away from Iran where waiting times are shorter. You should probably
> >> >> talk to an immigration lawyer about that sort of thing.
> >> >>
> >> >> Roan
> >> >>
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> >> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 02:28:57 +0300
> >> From: Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre at live.co.uk>
> >> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4
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> >> in some months?
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> >> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 19:26:11 -0400
> >> From: cestmoijustin at gmail.com
> >> To: wikimania-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4
> >>
> >> Yeah, i heard that USA is going to open a virtual embassy for Iran...
> >>
> >> 2011/11/2 B?ria Lima <berialima at gmail.com>
> >>
> >> Sorry Roan, I wanted to say the same thing you did but i failed.
> >>
> >> 2nd attempt: Citizens from any other country, with a canadian visa,
> still
> >>  need a USA visa to get into USA.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Or more detailed in Roan's mail ;)_____
> >> B?ria Lima
> >> (351) 925 171 484
> >>
> >>
> >> Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> >> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que
> >> estamos a fazer.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2 November 2011 10:35, Roan Kattouw <roan.kattouw at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:04 AM, B?ria Lima <berialima at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Justin, canadians also need visa to be in USA, so ask for a canandian
> >> visa
> >>
> >> > doesn't help.
> >>
> >> Canadians don't need a visa for most short visits. But by "Canadians"
> >>
> >> I mean people with a Canadian passport. If you have a Brazilian
> >>
> >> passport, it doesn't matter how you enter the US (by air, land or sea,
> >>
> >> directly from Brazil or via Canada), you will need a US visa. A
> >>
> >> Canadian visa won't help you get into the US at all: the US and Canada
> >>
> >> are separate countries with border controls between them (the border
> >>
> >> isn't open like the one between the UK and Ireland, or the borders
> >>
> >> between Schengen countries in Europe).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> That said, I hear it's possible to get a visa from a US consulate in
> >>
> >> Canada, which I presume will have shorter waiting times than some
> >>
> >> consulates elsewhere. But this is probably not allowed in most
> >>
> >> circumstances if you're not a Canadian citizen. In the OP's case where
> >>
> >> his country of citizenship doesn't have a consulate or embassy and
> >>
> >> he's gonna have to apply in a third country anyway, it might just be
> >>
> >> allowed, I guess. But Canada is a lot farther from Iran than Turkey or
> >>
> >> the UAE and doesn't have visa-free travel for Iranians either, so
> >>
> >> you'd have to get a visa in order to get a visa :P . I wouldn't know
> >>
> >> what sort of choice you have in choosing the country where you apply
> >>
> >> for a visa and whether you're allowed to apply in a country farther
> >>
> >> away from Iran where waiting times are shorter. You should probably
> >>
> >> talk to an immigration lawyer about that sort of thing.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Roan
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> end of 2011 according to sources.
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> >> 2011/11/2 Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre at live.co.uk>
> >>
> >> >  in some months?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > _____________________
> >> > MateusNobre
> >> > *MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects
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> >> > ------------------------------
> >> > Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 19:26:11 -0400
> >> > From: cestmoijustin at gmail.com
> >> > To: wikimania-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> >> > Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4
> >> >
> >> > Yeah, i heard that USA is going to open a virtual embassy for Iran...
> >> >
> >> > 2011/11/2 B?ria Lima <berialima at gmail.com>
> >> >
> >> > Sorry Roan, I wanted to say the same thing you did but i failed.
> >> >
> >> > 2nd attempt: Citizens from any other country, with a canadian visa,
> >> > still  need a USA visa to get into USA.
> >> >
> >> > Or more detailed in Roan's mail ;)
> >> >
> >> > _____
> >> > *B?ria Lima*
> >> > <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484
> >> >
> >> > *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> >> > livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que
> >> > estamos a fazer <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos
> >.*
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 2 November 2011 10:35, Roan Kattouw <roan.kattouw at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:04 AM, B?ria Lima <berialima at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > Justin, canadians also need visa to be in USA, so ask for a
> canandian
> >> > visa
> >> > > doesn't help.
> >> > Canadians don't need a visa for most short visits. But by "Canadians"
> >> > I mean people with a Canadian passport. If you have a Brazilian
> >> > passport, it doesn't matter how you enter the US (by air, land or sea,
> >> > directly from Brazil or via Canada), you will need a US visa. A
> >> > Canadian visa won't help you get into the US at all: the US and Canada
> >> > are separate countries with border controls between them (the border
> >> > isn't open like the one between the UK and Ireland, or the borders
> >> > between Schengen countries in Europe).
> >> >
> >> > That said, I hear it's possible to get a visa from a US consulate in
> >> > Canada, which I presume will have shorter waiting times than some
> >> > consulates elsewhere. But this is probably not allowed in most
> >> > circumstances if you're not a Canadian citizen. In the OP's case where
> >> > his country of citizenship doesn't have a consulate or embassy and
> >> > he's gonna have to apply in a third country anyway, it might just be
> >> > allowed, I guess. But Canada is a lot farther from Iran than Turkey or
> >> > the UAE and doesn't have visa-free travel for Iranians either, so
> >> > you'd have to get a visa in order to get a visa :P . I wouldn't know
> >> > what sort of choice you have in choosing the country where you apply
> >> > for a visa and whether you're allowed to apply in a country farther
> >> > away from Iran where waiting times are shorter. You should probably
> >> > talk to an immigration lawyer about that sort of thing.
> >> >
> >> > Roan
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
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