<div dir="ltr">Far is a very relative term, I have to Go to Tehran (350 KM away from my city) 2 hour flight to dubai, each times costs almost 500$ <br clear="all">Mardetanha <br>
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heh, so true, it's just informations...<br>
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Say, is UAE pretty far from your place?<br>
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2011/11/2 Mardetanha <<a href="mailto:mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com">mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com</a>><br>
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> I am afriad that virtual embassy also issues virtual visas. it still just<br>
> a word nothing solid yet<br>
> Mardetanha<br>
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>> From: B?ria Lima <<a href="mailto:berialima@gmail.com">berialima@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4<br>
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>> Sorry Roan, I wanted to say the same thing you did but i failed.<br>
>><br>
>> 2nd attempt: Citizens from any other country, with a canadian visa, still<br>
>> need a USA visa to get into USA.<br>
>><br>
>> Or more detailed in Roan's mail ;)<br>
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>> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que<br>
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>> On 2 November 2011 10:35, Roan Kattouw <<a href="mailto:roan.kattouw@gmail.com">roan.kattouw@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:04 AM, B?ria Lima <<a href="mailto:berialima@gmail.com">berialima@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> > > Justin, canadians also need visa to be in USA, so ask for a canandian<br>
>> > visa<br>
>> > > doesn't help.<br>
>> > Canadians don't need a visa for most short visits. But by "Canadians"<br>
>> > I mean people with a Canadian passport. If you have a Brazilian<br>
>> > passport, it doesn't matter how you enter the US (by air, land or sea,<br>
>> > directly from Brazil or via Canada), you will need a US visa. A<br>
>> > Canadian visa won't help you get into the US at all: the US and Canada<br>
>> > are separate countries with border controls between them (the border<br>
>> > isn't open like the one between the UK and Ireland, or the borders<br>
>> > between Schengen countries in Europe).<br>
>> ><br>
>> > That said, I hear it's possible to get a visa from a US consulate in<br>
>> > Canada, which I presume will have shorter waiting times than some<br>
>> > consulates elsewhere. But this is probably not allowed in most<br>
>> > circumstances if you're not a Canadian citizen. In the OP's case where<br>
>> > his country of citizenship doesn't have a consulate or embassy and<br>
>> > he's gonna have to apply in a third country anyway, it might just be<br>
>> > allowed, I guess. But Canada is a lot farther from Iran than Turkey or<br>
>> > the UAE and doesn't have visa-free travel for Iranians either, so<br>
>> > you'd have to get a visa in order to get a visa :P . I wouldn't know<br>
>> > what sort of choice you have in choosing the country where you apply<br>
>> > for a visa and whether you're allowed to apply in a country farther<br>
>> > away from Iran where waiting times are shorter. You should probably<br>
>> > talk to an immigration lawyer about that sort of thing.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Roan<br>
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>> Yeah, i heard that USA is going to open a virtual embassy for Iran...<br>
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>> 2011/11/2 B?ria Lima <<a href="mailto:berialima@gmail.com">berialima@gmail.com</a>><br>
>><br>
>> > Sorry Roan, I wanted to say the same thing you did but i failed.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > 2nd attempt: Citizens from any other country, with a canadian visa,<br>
>> > still need a USA visa to get into USA.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Or more detailed in Roan's mail ;)<br>
>> ><br>
>> > _____<br>
>> > *B?ria Lima*<br>
>> > <<a href="http://wikimedia.pt/" target="_blank">http://wikimedia.pt/</a>>(351) 925 171 484<br>
>> ><br>
>> > *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter<br>
>> > livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que<br>
>> > estamos a fazer <<a href="http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos" target="_blank">http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos</a>>.*<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > On 2 November 2011 10:35, Roan Kattouw <<a href="mailto:roan.kattouw@gmail.com">roan.kattouw@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> >> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:04 AM, B?ria Lima <<a href="mailto:berialima@gmail.com">berialima@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> >> > Justin, canadians also need visa to be in USA, so ask for a canandian<br>
>> >> visa<br>
>> >> > doesn't help.<br>
>> >> Canadians don't need a visa for most short visits. But by "Canadians"<br>
>> >> I mean people with a Canadian passport. If you have a Brazilian<br>
>> >> passport, it doesn't matter how you enter the US (by air, land or sea,<br>
>> >> directly from Brazil or via Canada), you will need a US visa. A<br>
>> >> Canadian visa won't help you get into the US at all: the US and Canada<br>
>> >> are separate countries with border controls between them (the border<br>
>> >> isn't open like the one between the UK and Ireland, or the borders<br>
>> >> between Schengen countries in Europe).<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> That said, I hear it's possible to get a visa from a US consulate in<br>
>> >> Canada, which I presume will have shorter waiting times than some<br>
>> >> consulates elsewhere. But this is probably not allowed in most<br>
>> >> circumstances if you're not a Canadian citizen. In the OP's case where<br>
>> >> his country of citizenship doesn't have a consulate or embassy and<br>
>> >> he's gonna have to apply in a third country anyway, it might just be<br>
>> >> allowed, I guess. But Canada is a lot farther from Iran than Turkey or<br>
>> >> the UAE and doesn't have visa-free travel for Iranians either, so<br>
>> >> you'd have to get a visa in order to get a visa :P . I wouldn't know<br>
>> >> what sort of choice you have in choosing the country where you apply<br>
>> >> for a visa and whether you're allowed to apply in a country farther<br>
>> >> away from Iran where waiting times are shorter. You should probably<br>
>> >> talk to an immigration lawyer about that sort of thing.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Roan<br>
>> >><br>
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>> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4<br>
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>> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 19:26:11 -0400<br>
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>> To: <a href="mailto:wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org">wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org</a><br>
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>> Yeah, i heard that USA is going to open a virtual embassy for Iran...<br>
>><br>
>> 2011/11/2 B?ria Lima <<a href="mailto:berialima@gmail.com">berialima@gmail.com</a>><br>
>><br>
>> Sorry Roan, I wanted to say the same thing you did but i failed.<br>
>><br>
>> 2nd attempt: Citizens from any other country, with a canadian visa, still<br>
>> need a USA visa to get into USA.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Or more detailed in Roan's mail ;)_____<br>
>> B?ria Lima<br>
>> (351) 925 171 484<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter<br>
>> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que<br>
>> estamos a fazer.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 2 November 2011 10:35, Roan Kattouw <<a href="mailto:roan.kattouw@gmail.com">roan.kattouw@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:04 AM, B?ria Lima <<a href="mailto:berialima@gmail.com">berialima@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> > Justin, canadians also need visa to be in USA, so ask for a canandian<br>
>> visa<br>
>><br>
>> > doesn't help.<br>
>><br>
>> Canadians don't need a visa for most short visits. But by "Canadians"<br>
>><br>
>> I mean people with a Canadian passport. If you have a Brazilian<br>
>><br>
>> passport, it doesn't matter how you enter the US (by air, land or sea,<br>
>><br>
>> directly from Brazil or via Canada), you will need a US visa. A<br>
>><br>
>> Canadian visa won't help you get into the US at all: the US and Canada<br>
>><br>
>> are separate countries with border controls between them (the border<br>
>><br>
>> isn't open like the one between the UK and Ireland, or the borders<br>
>><br>
>> between Schengen countries in Europe).<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> That said, I hear it's possible to get a visa from a US consulate in<br>
>><br>
>> Canada, which I presume will have shorter waiting times than some<br>
>><br>
>> consulates elsewhere. But this is probably not allowed in most<br>
>><br>
>> circumstances if you're not a Canadian citizen. In the OP's case where<br>
>><br>
>> his country of citizenship doesn't have a consulate or embassy and<br>
>><br>
>> he's gonna have to apply in a third country anyway, it might just be<br>
>><br>
>> allowed, I guess. But Canada is a lot farther from Iran than Turkey or<br>
>><br>
>> the UAE and doesn't have visa-free travel for Iranians either, so<br>
>><br>
>> you'd have to get a visa in order to get a visa :P . I wouldn't know<br>
>><br>
>> what sort of choice you have in choosing the country where you apply<br>
>><br>
>> for a visa and whether you're allowed to apply in a country farther<br>
>><br>
>> away from Iran where waiting times are shorter. You should probably<br>
>><br>
>> talk to an immigration lawyer about that sort of thing.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Roan<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
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>> 2011/11/2 Mateus Nobre <<a href="mailto:mateus.nobre@live.co.uk">mateus.nobre@live.co.uk</a>><br>
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>> > in some months?<br>
>> ><br>
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>> > ------------------------------<br>
>> > Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 19:26:11 -0400<br>
>> > From: <a href="mailto:cestmoijustin@gmail.com">cestmoijustin@gmail.com</a><br>
>> > To: <a href="mailto:wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org">wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org</a><br>
>> > Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Yeah, i heard that USA is going to open a virtual embassy for Iran...<br>
>> ><br>
>> > 2011/11/2 B?ria Lima <<a href="mailto:berialima@gmail.com">berialima@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Sorry Roan, I wanted to say the same thing you did but i failed.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > 2nd attempt: Citizens from any other country, with a canadian visa,<br>
>> > still need a USA visa to get into USA.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Or more detailed in Roan's mail ;)<br>
>> ><br>
>> > _____<br>
>> > *B?ria Lima*<br>
>> > <<a href="http://wikimedia.pt/" target="_blank">http://wikimedia.pt/</a>>(351) 925 171 484<br>
>> ><br>
>> > *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter<br>
>> > livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que<br>
>> > estamos a fazer <<a href="http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos" target="_blank">http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos</a>>.*<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > On 2 November 2011 10:35, Roan Kattouw <<a href="mailto:roan.kattouw@gmail.com">roan.kattouw@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:04 AM, B?ria Lima <<a href="mailto:berialima@gmail.com">berialima@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> > > Justin, canadians also need visa to be in USA, so ask for a canandian<br>
>> > visa<br>
>> > > doesn't help.<br>
>> > Canadians don't need a visa for most short visits. But by "Canadians"<br>
>> > I mean people with a Canadian passport. If you have a Brazilian<br>
>> > passport, it doesn't matter how you enter the US (by air, land or sea,<br>
>> > directly from Brazil or via Canada), you will need a US visa. A<br>
>> > Canadian visa won't help you get into the US at all: the US and Canada<br>
>> > are separate countries with border controls between them (the border<br>
>> > isn't open like the one between the UK and Ireland, or the borders<br>
>> > between Schengen countries in Europe).<br>
>> ><br>
>> > That said, I hear it's possible to get a visa from a US consulate in<br>
>> > Canada, which I presume will have shorter waiting times than some<br>
>> > consulates elsewhere. But this is probably not allowed in most<br>
>> > circumstances if you're not a Canadian citizen. In the OP's case where<br>
>> > his country of citizenship doesn't have a consulate or embassy and<br>
>> > he's gonna have to apply in a third country anyway, it might just be<br>
>> > allowed, I guess. But Canada is a lot farther from Iran than Turkey or<br>
>> > the UAE and doesn't have visa-free travel for Iranians either, so<br>
>> > you'd have to get a visa in order to get a visa :P . I wouldn't know<br>
>> > what sort of choice you have in choosing the country where you apply<br>
>> > for a visa and whether you're allowed to apply in a country farther<br>
>> > away from Iran where waiting times are shorter. You should probably<br>
>> > talk to an immigration lawyer about that sort of thing.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Roan<br>
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