[Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 10

Wed Nov 2 16:47:04 UTC 2011

For visa at least I need 6 month, so it would very great if we can have
some sort of help for users who live in such countries, My options are
Kabol, Dubai , Baku, Istanbul and ankara, except turkey they all need visa
:)
Mardetanha

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 7:15 PM, <wikimania-l-request at lists.wikimedia.org>wrote:

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>   3. Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue (Thomas Dalton)
>   4. Re: Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4 (Thomas Dalton)
>   5. Re: Wikimania 2011 videos inquiry (Deror Avi)
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> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 01:21:11 +0000
> From: Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com>
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> You mean try and slip across the border unnoticed? The consequences if you
> were caught would be very serious. I don't think the wikimedia movement can
> condone illegal immigration in order to attend wikimania.
> On Nov 1, 2011 10:58 PM, "Justin Quintal" <cestmoijustin at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Well, not that, but to make it easier heh
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> 2011/11/1 Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com>
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> > You mean try and slip across the border unnoticed? The consequences if
> you
> > were caught would be very serious. I don't think the wikimedia movement
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> > condone illegal immigration in order to attend wikimania.
> > On Nov 1, 2011 10:58 PM, "Justin Quintal" <cestmoijustin at gmail.com>
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> From: Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
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> http://wikimania2006.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Visas
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> It was mentioned.
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> From: Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com>
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> How would it be easier?
> On Nov 2, 2011 1:23 AM, "Justin Quintal" <cestmoijustin at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Well, not that, but to make it easier heh
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> > 2011/11/1 Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com>
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> >> You mean try and slip across the border unnoticed? The consequences if
> >> you were caught would be very serious. I don't think the wikimedia
> movement
> >> can condone illegal immigration in order to attend wikimania.
> >> On Nov 1, 2011 10:58 PM, "Justin Quintal" <cestmoijustin at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
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> From: Deror Avi <deror_avi at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2011 videos inquiry
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> The videos that have uploaded may be easily accessed through the schedule
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> http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Schedule#Main_Event_Programme
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> From: B?ria Lima <berialima at gmail.com>
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> Justin, canadians also need visa to be in USA, so ask for a canandian visa
> doesn't help.
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> On 2 November 2011 01:22, Justin Quintal <cestmoijustin at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Well, not that, but to make it easier heh
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> > 2011/11/1 Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com>
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> >> You mean try and slip across the border unnoticed? The consequences if
> >> you were caught would be very serious. I don't think the wikimedia
> movement
> >> can condone illegal immigration in order to attend wikimania.
> >> On Nov 1, 2011 10:58 PM, "Justin Quintal" <cestmoijustin at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
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> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 11:35:53 +0100
> From: Roan Kattouw <roan.kattouw at gmail.com>
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> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:04 AM, B?ria Lima <berialima at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Justin, canadians also need visa to be in USA, so ask for a canandian
> visa
> > doesn't help.
> Canadians don't need a visa for most short visits. But by "Canadians"
> I mean people with a Canadian passport. If you have a Brazilian
> passport, it doesn't matter how you enter the US (by air, land or sea,
> directly from Brazil or via Canada), you will need a US visa. A
> Canadian visa won't help you get into the US at all: the US and Canada
> are separate countries with border controls between them (the border
> isn't open like the one between the UK and Ireland, or the borders
> between Schengen countries in Europe).
>
> That said, I hear it's possible to get a visa from a US consulate in
> Canada, which I presume will have shorter waiting times than some
> consulates elsewhere. But this is probably not allowed in most
> circumstances if you're not a Canadian citizen. In the OP's case where
> his country of citizenship doesn't have a consulate or embassy and
> he's gonna have to apply in a third country anyway, it might just be
> allowed, I guess. But Canada is a lot farther from Iran than Turkey or
> the UAE and doesn't have visa-free travel for Iranians either, so
> you'd have to get a visa in order to get a visa :P . I wouldn't know
> what sort of choice you have in choosing the country where you apply
> for a visa and whether you're allowed to apply in a country farther
> away from Iran where waiting times are shorter. You should probably
> talk to an immigration lawyer about that sort of thing.
>
> Roan
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> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 12:55:50 +0100
> From: Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com>
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> On 2 November 2011 11:35, Roan Kattouw <roan.kattouw at gmail.com> wrote:
> > That said, I hear it's possible to get a visa from a US consulate in
> > Canada, which I presume will have shorter waiting times than some
> > consulates elsewhere.
>
> The waiting times will probably be pretty short for Canadians (in
> those cases where they need visas). I would expect foreign nationals
> to have quite a long wait, since the US consulate in Canada won't have
> experts on Iranians and what checks need to done and won't have
> systems in place to do those checks quickly. Countries bordering Iran
> probably do such checks reasonably frequently, so would probably be
> quicker.
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> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 08:45:56 -0700
> From: phoebe ayers <phoebe.ayers at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2011 videos inquiry
> To: Deror Avi <deror_avi at yahoo.com>,    "Wikimania general list (open
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> Deror and all,
>
> This is awesome. Congratulations on successfully producing *and* uploading
> *and* linking up all of the Wikimania videos! This may be a first :)
>
> best,
> Phoebe
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Deror Avi <deror_avi at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > The videos that have uploaded may be easily accessed through the schedule
> > page:******
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> > http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Schedule#Main_Event_Programme
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> > Deror
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