<div dir="ltr">For visa at least I need 6 month, so it would very great if we can have some sort of help for users who live in such countries, My options are Kabol, Dubai , Baku, Istanbul and ankara, except turkey they all need visa :) <br clear="all">
Mardetanha <br>
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3. Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue (Thomas Dalton)<br>
4. Re: Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4 (Thomas Dalton)<br>
5. Re: Wikimania 2011 videos inquiry (Deror Avi)<br>
6. Re: Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4 (B?ria Lima)<br>
7. Re: Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4 (Roan Kattouw)<br>
8. Re: Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4 (Thomas Dalton)<br>
9. Re: Wikimania 2011 videos inquiry (phoebe ayers)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 01:21:11 +0000<br>
From: Thomas Dalton <<a href="mailto:thomas.dalton@gmail.com">thomas.dalton@gmail.com</a>><br>
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You mean try and slip across the border unnoticed? The consequences if you<br>
were caught would be very serious. I don't think the wikimedia movement can<br>
condone illegal immigration in order to attend wikimania.<br>
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 21:22:51 -0400<br>
From: Justin Quintal <<a href="mailto:cestmoijustin@gmail.com">cestmoijustin@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4<br>
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Well, not that, but to make it easier heh<br>
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2011/11/1 Thomas Dalton <<a href="mailto:thomas.dalton@gmail.com">thomas.dalton@gmail.com</a>><br>
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> You mean try and slip across the border unnoticed? The consequences if you<br>
> were caught would be very serious. I don't think the wikimedia movement can<br>
> condone illegal immigration in order to attend wikimania.<br>
> On Nov 1, 2011 10:58 PM, "Justin Quintal" <<a href="mailto:cestmoijustin@gmail.com">cestmoijustin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 01:30:02 +0000<br>
From: Thomas Dalton <<a href="mailto:thomas.dalton@gmail.com">thomas.dalton@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue<br>
To: Josh Lim <<a href="mailto:jamesjoshualim@yahoo.com">jamesjoshualim@yahoo.com</a>>, "Wikimania general list<br>
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It was mentioned.<br>
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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 01:30:45 +0000<br>
From: Thomas Dalton <<a href="mailto:thomas.dalton@gmail.com">thomas.dalton@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4<br>
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How would it be easier?<br>
On Nov 2, 2011 1:23 AM, "Justin Quintal" <<a href="mailto:cestmoijustin@gmail.com">cestmoijustin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Well, not that, but to make it easier heh<br>
><br>
> 2011/11/1 Thomas Dalton <<a href="mailto:thomas.dalton@gmail.com">thomas.dalton@gmail.com</a>><br>
><br>
>> You mean try and slip across the border unnoticed? The consequences if<br>
>> you were caught would be very serious. I don't think the wikimedia movement<br>
>> can condone illegal immigration in order to attend wikimania.<br>
>> On Nov 1, 2011 10:58 PM, "Justin Quintal" <<a href="mailto:cestmoijustin@gmail.com">cestmoijustin@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 00:51:31 -0700 (PDT)<br>
From: Deror Avi <<a href="mailto:deror_avi@yahoo.com">deror_avi@yahoo.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2011 videos inquiry<br>
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The videos that have uploaded may be easily accessed through the schedule page:<br>
?<br>
<a href="http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Schedule#Main_Event_Programme" target="_blank">http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Schedule#Main_Event_Programme</a><br>
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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 10:04:39 +0000<br>
From: B?ria Lima <<a href="mailto:berialima@gmail.com">berialima@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4<br>
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Justin, canadians also need visa to be in USA, so ask for a canandian visa<br>
doesn't help.<br>
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On 2 November 2011 01:22, Justin Quintal <<a href="mailto:cestmoijustin@gmail.com">cestmoijustin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Well, not that, but to make it easier heh<br>
><br>
> 2011/11/1 Thomas Dalton <<a href="mailto:thomas.dalton@gmail.com">thomas.dalton@gmail.com</a>><br>
><br>
>> You mean try and slip across the border unnoticed? The consequences if<br>
>> you were caught would be very serious. I don't think the wikimedia movement<br>
>> can condone illegal immigration in order to attend wikimania.<br>
>> On Nov 1, 2011 10:58 PM, "Justin Quintal" <<a href="mailto:cestmoijustin@gmail.com">cestmoijustin@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 11:35:53 +0100<br>
From: Roan Kattouw <<a href="mailto:roan.kattouw@gmail.com">roan.kattouw@gmail.com</a>><br>
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On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:04 AM, B?ria Lima <<a href="mailto:berialima@gmail.com">berialima@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Justin, canadians also need visa to be in USA, so ask for a canandian visa<br>
> doesn't help.<br>
Canadians don't need a visa for most short visits. But by "Canadians"<br>
I mean people with a Canadian passport. If you have a Brazilian<br>
passport, it doesn't matter how you enter the US (by air, land or sea,<br>
directly from Brazil or via Canada), you will need a US visa. A<br>
Canadian visa won't help you get into the US at all: the US and Canada<br>
are separate countries with border controls between them (the border<br>
isn't open like the one between the UK and Ireland, or the borders<br>
between Schengen countries in Europe).<br>
<br>
That said, I hear it's possible to get a visa from a US consulate in<br>
Canada, which I presume will have shorter waiting times than some<br>
consulates elsewhere. But this is probably not allowed in most<br>
circumstances if you're not a Canadian citizen. In the OP's case where<br>
his country of citizenship doesn't have a consulate or embassy and<br>
he's gonna have to apply in a third country anyway, it might just be<br>
allowed, I guess. But Canada is a lot farther from Iran than Turkey or<br>
the UAE and doesn't have visa-free travel for Iranians either, so<br>
you'd have to get a visa in order to get a visa :P . I wouldn't know<br>
what sort of choice you have in choosing the country where you apply<br>
for a visa and whether you're allowed to apply in a country farther<br>
away from Iran where waiting times are shorter. You should probably<br>
talk to an immigration lawyer about that sort of thing.<br>
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Roan<br>
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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 12:55:50 +0100<br>
From: Thomas Dalton <<a href="mailto:thomas.dalton@gmail.com">thomas.dalton@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4<br>
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On 2 November 2011 11:35, Roan Kattouw <<a href="mailto:roan.kattouw@gmail.com">roan.kattouw@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> That said, I hear it's possible to get a visa from a US consulate in<br>
> Canada, which I presume will have shorter waiting times than some<br>
> consulates elsewhere.<br>
<br>
The waiting times will probably be pretty short for Canadians (in<br>
those cases where they need visas). I would expect foreign nationals<br>
to have quite a long wait, since the US consulate in Canada won't have<br>
experts on Iranians and what checks need to done and won't have<br>
systems in place to do those checks quickly. Countries bordering Iran<br>
probably do such checks reasonably frequently, so would probably be<br>
quicker.<br>
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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 08:45:56 -0700<br>
From: phoebe ayers <<a href="mailto:phoebe.ayers@gmail.com">phoebe.ayers@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2011 videos inquiry<br>
To: Deror Avi <<a href="mailto:deror_avi@yahoo.com">deror_avi@yahoo.com</a>>, "Wikimania general list (open<br>
subscription)" <<a href="mailto:wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org">wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org</a>><br>
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Deror and all,<br>
<br>
This is awesome. Congratulations on successfully producing *and* uploading<br>
*and* linking up all of the Wikimania videos! This may be a first :)<br>
<br>
best,<br>
Phoebe<br>
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On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Deror Avi <<a href="mailto:deror_avi@yahoo.com">deror_avi@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> The videos that have uploaded may be easily accessed through the schedule<br>
> page:******<br>
> ** **<br>
> <a href="http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Schedule#Main_Event_Programme" target="_blank">http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Schedule#Main_Event_Programme</a><br>
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> Deror<br>
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