[Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 6
Mardetanha
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Tue Nov 1 21:38:38 UTC 2011
without official invitation letter and so, there is no merit in wasting in
US embassy, they won't issue visa at all
Mardetanha
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> I think it's better you advance your visa...
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> And I live in Iran, which US has no embassy, so I have travel to turkey or
> UAE for the visa at least two times, to apply for the visa, 6 month is the
> minimum time that i need to apply Mardetanha
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> From: Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre at live.co.uk>
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> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
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> Yeah Thomas, I forgot that.
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> It's prundet give the scolarschips to whom already have the visas. Two
> months would be impossible normally (at least for Brazil, idk for other
> countried visa-needed). We could request special priority, but it's risky
> and always can be denied.
>
>
>
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>
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> From: mateus.nobre at live.co.uk
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> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:41:09 +0300
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> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
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> Yeah, but not all brazilians editors follow these lists.
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> A good idea too give priority to whom already have the visa. This could
> avoid problems to Wikimania staff.
>
>
>
> _____________________
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> MateusNobre
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> MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects
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> (+55) 85 88393509
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> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:36:20 +0000
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> From: berialima at gmail.com
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> To: wikimania-l at lists.wikimedia.org
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> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
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>
> wikimediabr-l at lists.wikimedia.org is there for this.
>
>
>
> We also have wikipt at lists.wikimedia.org , lista at wikimedia.pt and
> http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada (if you can't
> follow any of those list and is brasilian I don't know what else they can
> be ;) )
>
>
>
> _____
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> B?ria Lima
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> (351) 925 171 484
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> Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que
> estamos a fazer.
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> On 1 November 2011 20:29, Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre at live.co.uk> wrote:
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> For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this someone
> may not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some countries
> is really hard....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _____________________
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> MateusNobre
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> MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects
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> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +0000
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> From: berialima at gmail.com
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> To: wikimania-l at lists.wikimedia.org
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> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
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> How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are
> made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the
> scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for
> visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you request
> now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a
> result for your application.
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
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> B?ria Lima
>
> (351) 925 171 484
>
>
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> Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que
> estamos a fazer.
>
>
>
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> On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre at live.co.uk> wrote:
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> http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries
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> Hello everyone,
>
>
>
> As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.!
> Yeah.
>
>
>
> But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it
> but I wanna clarify to you.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left
> over need a visa to enter in.
>
>
>
> Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best
> moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops
> :D) and WMF contacted me six months before.
>
>
>
>
>
> In this ''six months before'' have one problem.
>
>
>
> In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take
> 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and
> the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa.
> When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of
> Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could
> appeal, and would take more two months.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And
> happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.
>
>
>
> I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early.
> Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US
> really isn't easy.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> What do you think?
>
>
>
> _____________________
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> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:48:01 +0000
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> From: Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com>
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> On 1 November 2011 20:44, Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre at live.co.uk> wrote:
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> > Yeah Thomas, I forgot that.
>
> > It's prundet give the scolarschips to whom already have the visas. Two
>
> > months would be impossible normally (at least for Brazil, idk for other
>
> > countried visa-needed). We could request special priority, but it's risky
>
> > and always can be denied.
>
>
>
> I meant 2 months from now, so about 6 months before the conference.
>
> That should be enough time, but we would need to start accepting
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> scholarship applications within the next week or two, really.
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> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:48:57 +0000
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> From: B?ria Lima <berialima at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
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> To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)"
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> Any visa can be denied, Mateus. And there are a waiting list for Wikimania
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> scholarship. You don't need to worry, no scholarship will be wasted.
>
> _____
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> *B?ria Lima*
>
> <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484
>
>
>
> *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
>
> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que
>
> estamos a fazer <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos>.*
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1 November 2011 20:44, Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre at live.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Yeah Thomas, I forgot that.
>
> > It's prundet give the scolarschips to whom already have the visas. Two
>
> > months would be impossible normally (at least for Brazil, idk for other
>
> > countried visa-needed). We could request special priority, but it's risky
>
> > and always can be denied.
>
> >
>
> > _____________________
>
> > MateusNobre
>
> > *MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects
>
> > (+55) 85 88393509
>
> > 30440865
>
> > *
>
> >
>
> > ------------------------------
>
> > From: mateus.nobre at live.co.uk
>
> > To: wikimania-l at lists.wikimedia.org
>
> > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:41:09 +0300
>
> >
>
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
>
> >
>
> > Yeah, but not all brazilians editors follow these lists.
>
> >
>
> > A good idea too give priority to whom already have the visa. This could
>
> > avoid problems to Wikimania staff.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > _____________________
>
> > MateusNobre
>
> > *MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects
>
> > (+55) 85 88393509
>
> > 30440865
>
> > *
>
> >
>
> > ------------------------------
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> > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:36:20 +0000
>
> > From: berialima at gmail.com
>
> > To: wikimania-l at lists.wikimedia.org
>
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
>
> >
>
> > wikimediabr-l at lists.wikimedia.org is there for this.
>
> >
>
> > We also have wikipt at lists.wikimedia.org , lista at wikimedia.pt and
>
> > http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada<
> http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia%3aEsplanada>(if you can't
> follow any of those list and is brasilian I don't know what
>
>
>
> > else they can be ;) )
>
> > _____
>
> > *B?ria Lima*
>
> > <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484
>
> >
>
> > *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
>
> > livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que
>
> > estamos a fazer <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos>.*
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On 1 November 2011 20:29, Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre at live.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this
>
> > someone may not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some
>
> > countries is really hard....
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > _____________________
>
> > MateusNobre
>
> >
>
> > *MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects
>
> > (+55) 85 88393509
>
> > 30440865
>
> > *
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > ------------------------------
>
> > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +0000
>
> > From: berialima at gmail.com
>
> >
>
> > To: wikimania-l at lists.wikimedia.org
>
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
>
> >
>
> > How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are
>
> > made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the
>
> > scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for
>
> > visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you
> request
>
> > now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a
>
> > result for your application.
>
> > _____
>
> > *B?ria Lima*
>
> > <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484
>
> >
>
> > *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
>
> > livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que
>
> > estamos a fazer <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos>.*
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre at live.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries
>
> >
>
> > Hello everyone,
>
> >
>
> > As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington
> D.C.!
>
> > Yeah.
>
> >
>
> > But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it
>
> > but I wanna clarify to you.
>
> >
>
> > U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left
>
> > over need a visa to enter in.
>
> >
>
> > Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa* (the best
>
> > moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops
> :D)
>
> > * and WMF contacted me six months before.
>
> > In this ''six months before'' have one problem.
>
> >
>
> > In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we
> take
>
> > 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil
> and
>
> > the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa.
>
> > When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer
> of
>
> > Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We
> could
>
> > appeal, and would take more two months.
>
> >
>
> > It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And
>
> > happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.
>
> >
>
> > I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early.
>
> > Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US
>
> > really isn't easy.
>
> >
>
> > What do you think?
>
> >
>
> > _____________________
>
> > MateusNobre
>
> > *Wikimedia Brasil - MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects
>
> > (+55) 85 88393509
>
> > 30440865
>
> > *
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> >
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