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<font style="font-size:10pt;" face="Garamond" size="2">I think it's better you advance your visa... <br id="FontBreak"></font><br><br><font style="font-size:12pt" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><font style="" face="Comic Sans MS">_____________________<br>M</font>ateus<font style="" face="Comic Sans MS">N</font><font style="" face="Times New Roman">obre<br><i><font style="font-size:10pt" face="Garamond" size="2"><font style="" color="#7F7F7F">MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects</font><br><font style="" face="Tahoma"><font style="" color="#595959">(+55) 85 88393509</font><font style="" color="#595959"><br></font><font style="" color="#595959"> 30440865</font><br></font></font></i></font></font><br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com<br>Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 00:32:08 +0330<br>To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org<br>Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4<br><br><div dir="ltr">And I live in Iran, which US has no embassy, so I have travel to turkey or UAE for the visa at least two times, to apply for the visa, 6 month is the minimum time that i need to apply <br clear="all">Mardetanha <br>
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1. Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue (Mateus Nobre)<br>
2. Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue (Thomas Dalton)<br>
3. Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue (B?ria Lima)<br>
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:44:59 +0300<br>
From: Mateus Nobre <<a href="mailto:mateus.nobre@live.co.uk">mateus.nobre@live.co.uk</a>><br>
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Yeah Thomas, I forgot that.<br>
It's prundet give the scolarschips to whom already have the visas. Two months would be impossible normally (at least for Brazil, idk for other countried visa-needed). We could request special priority, but it's risky and always can be denied.<br>
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:41:09 +0300<br>
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue<br>
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Yeah, but not all brazilians editors follow these lists.<br>
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A good idea too give priority to whom already have the visa. This could avoid problems to Wikimania staff.<br>
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:36:20 +0000<br>
From: <a href="mailto:berialima@gmail.com">berialima@gmail.com</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org">wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue<br>
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<a href="mailto:wikimediabr-l@lists.wikimedia.org">wikimediabr-l@lists.wikimedia.org</a> is there for this.<br>
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We also have <a href="mailto:wikipt@lists.wikimedia.org">wikipt@lists.wikimedia.org</a> , <a href="mailto:lista@wikimedia.pt">lista@wikimedia.pt</a> and <a href="http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia%3aEsplanada" target="_blank">http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada</a> (if you can't follow any of those list and is brasilian I don't know what else they can be ;) )<br>
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On 1 November 2011 20:29, Mateus Nobre <<a href="mailto:mateus.nobre@live.co.uk">mateus.nobre@live.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
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For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this someone may not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some countries is really hard....<br>
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +0000<br>
From: <a href="mailto:berialima@gmail.com">berialima@gmail.com</a><br>
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Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue<br>
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How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you request now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a result for your application.<br>
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B?ria Lima<br>
(351) 925 171 484<br>
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Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que estamos a fazer.<br>
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On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre <<a href="mailto:mateus.nobre@live.co.uk">mateus.nobre@live.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
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<a href="http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries" target="_blank">http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries</a><br>
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<br>
Hello everyone,<br>
<br>
As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.! Yeah.<br>
<br>
But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it but I wanna clarify to you.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left over need a visa to enter in.<br>
<br>
Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops :D) and WMF contacted me six months before.<br>
<br>
<br>
In this ''six months before'' have one problem.<br>
<br>
In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa. When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could appeal, and would take more two months.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.<br>
<br>
I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early. Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US really isn't easy.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
What do you think?<br>
<br>
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:48:01 +0000<br>
From: Thomas Dalton <<a href="mailto:thomas.dalton@gmail.com">thomas.dalton@gmail.com</a>><br>
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On 1 November 2011 20:44, Mateus Nobre <<a href="mailto:mateus.nobre@live.co.uk">mateus.nobre@live.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
> Yeah Thomas, I forgot that.<br>
> It's prundet give the scolarschips to whom already have the visas. Two<br>
> months would be impossible normally (at least for Brazil, idk for other<br>
> countried visa-needed). We could request special priority, but it's risky<br>
> and always can be denied.<br>
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I meant 2 months from now, so about 6 months before the conference.<br>
That should be enough time, but we would need to start accepting<br>
scholarship applications within the next week or two, really.<br>
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:48:57 +0000<br>
From: B?ria Lima <<a href="mailto:berialima@gmail.com">berialima@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Any visa can be denied, Mateus. And there are a waiting list for Wikimania<br>
scholarship. You don't need to worry, no scholarship will be wasted.<br>
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*B?ria Lima*<br>
<<a href="http://wikimedia.pt/" target="_blank">http://wikimedia.pt/</a>>(351) 925 171 484<br>
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*Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter<br>
livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que<br>
estamos a fazer <<a href="http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos" target="_blank">http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos</a>>.*<br>
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On 1 November 2011 20:44, Mateus Nobre <<a href="mailto:mateus.nobre@live.co.uk">mateus.nobre@live.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Yeah Thomas, I forgot that.<br>
> It's prundet give the scolarschips to whom already have the visas. Two<br>
> months would be impossible normally (at least for Brazil, idk for other<br>
> countried visa-needed). We could request special priority, but it's risky<br>
> and always can be denied.<br>
><br>
> _____________________<br>
> MateusNobre<br>
> *MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects<br>
> <a target="_blank">(+55) 85 88393509</a><br>
> 30440865<br>
> *<br>
><br>
> ------------------------------<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:mateus.nobre@live.co.uk">mateus.nobre@live.co.uk</a><br>
> To: <a href="mailto:wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org">wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org</a><br>
> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:41:09 +0300<br>
><br>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue<br>
><br>
> Yeah, but not all brazilians editors follow these lists.<br>
><br>
> A good idea too give priority to whom already have the visa. This could<br>
> avoid problems to Wikimania staff.<br>
><br>
><br>
> _____________________<br>
> MateusNobre<br>
> *MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects<br>
> <a target="_blank">(+55) 85 88393509</a><br>
> 30440865<br>
> *<br>
><br>
> ------------------------------<br>
> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:36:20 +0000<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:berialima@gmail.com">berialima@gmail.com</a><br>
> To: <a href="mailto:wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org">wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue<br>
><br>
> <a href="mailto:wikimediabr-l@lists.wikimedia.org">wikimediabr-l@lists.wikimedia.org</a> is there for this.<br>
><br>
> We also have <a href="mailto:wikipt@lists.wikimedia.org">wikipt@lists.wikimedia.org</a> , <a href="mailto:lista@wikimedia.pt">lista@wikimedia.pt</a> and<br>
> <a href="http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia%3aEsplanada" target="_blank">http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada</a><<a href="http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia%3aEsplanada" target="_blank">http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia%3aEsplanada</a>>(if you can't follow any of those list and is brasilian I don't know what<br>
> else they can be ;) )<br>
> _____<br>
> *B?ria Lima*<br>
> <<a href="http://wikimedia.pt/" target="_blank">http://wikimedia.pt/</a>>(351) 925 171 484<br>
><br>
> *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter<br>
> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que<br>
> estamos a fazer <<a href="http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos" target="_blank">http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos</a>>.*<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 1 November 2011 20:29, Mateus Nobre <<a href="mailto:mateus.nobre@live.co.uk">mateus.nobre@live.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this<br>
> someone may not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some<br>
> countries is really hard....<br>
><br>
><br>
> _____________________<br>
> MateusNobre<br>
><br>
> *MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects<br>
> <a target="_blank">(+55) 85 88393509</a><br>
> 30440865<br>
> *<br>
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> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +0000<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:berialima@gmail.com">berialima@gmail.com</a><br>
><br>
> To: <a href="mailto:wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org">wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue<br>
><br>
> How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are<br>
> made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the<br>
> scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for<br>
> visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you request<br>
> now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a<br>
> result for your application.<br>
> _____<br>
> *B?ria Lima*<br>
> <<a href="http://wikimedia.pt/" target="_blank">http://wikimedia.pt/</a>>(351) 925 171 484<br>
><br>
> *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter<br>
> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que<br>
> estamos a fazer <<a href="http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos" target="_blank">http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos</a>>.*<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre <<a href="mailto:mateus.nobre@live.co.uk">mateus.nobre@live.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries" target="_blank">http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries</a><br>
><br>
> Hello everyone,<br>
><br>
> As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.!<br>
> Yeah.<br>
><br>
> But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it<br>
> but I wanna clarify to you.<br>
><br>
> U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left<br>
> over need a visa to enter in.<br>
><br>
> Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa* (the best<br>
> moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops :D)<br>
> * and WMF contacted me six months before.<br>
> In this ''six months before'' have one problem.<br>
><br>
> In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take<br>
> 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and<br>
> the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa.<br>
> When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of<br>
> Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could<br>
> appeal, and would take more two months.<br>
><br>
> It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And<br>
> happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.<br>
><br>
> I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early.<br>
> Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US<br>
> really isn't easy.<br>
><br>
> What do you think?<br>
><br>
> _____________________<br>
> MateusNobre<br>
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