[WikiEN-l] Privacy Study Looking for Volunteers

James Alexander jalexander at wikimedia.org
Sat Mar 28 12:38:10 UTC 2015

The idea of the IP being more private in the history/ public logs (for
example a unique hash so that you know it's "an IP" but not where/what IP"
) is one that I know has been discussed and is desired by a good number
within the foundation including within legal. I'll try to look for the
phabricator task about it tomorrow. I think that's something that is likely
to happen, it isn't easy though and requires a fair number of resources to
be pointed at it to get it done so it's a question of priorities and
convincing those who decide those things that it should be higher. I
believe it's something, privacy wise, that legal would really like.

I think it is unlikely in the short to medium term, however, to get rid of
the IPs in the backend (in server logs and in the checkuser system for
example) because the replacements just aren't there. I've spent a good
amount of time thinking of a way to make the checkuser system as usable as
necessary without revealing IPs for example (including a consultant who
looked a lot but didn't really come up with anything we didn't know
already). I think it's doable, but it would be a very difficult and long
design process and I think it's unlikely in the near future.

James Alexander
Community Advocacy
Wikimedia Foundation
(415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 10:17 PM, Kyanos <someanon126 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't believe a different license is needed. CC licenses can be used for
> anonymous works: The author is not given and does not have to be credited,
> but everything else (attribution of the work and share-alike) would stay
> the same. So a change in the terms of use to the effect of, "Unregistered
> edits are considered to have no named author," would be sufficient.
> Kyanos
> On 03/27/2015 06:41 AM, WereSpielChequers wrote:
>> Perhaps we should move to a different licensing model for future IP
>> edits. CC0 for IP edits would be a more sensible license for edits by an IP
>> where in many cases no-one could attribute the edit to the individual who
>> made it. If people don't want to release their edits as CC0 they can always
>> create an account.
>> Regards
>> Jonathan Cardy
>>  On 27 Mar 2015, at 10:28, Elias Friedman <elipongo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> It's actually required so as to provide attribution as per the Creative
>>> Commons and other licenses we operate under.
>>> Sent from my Droid 4
>>> Elias Friedman A.S., CCEMT-P
>>> אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי
>>> elipongo at gmail.com
>>> "יְהִי אוֹר"
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