[WikiEN-l] Wikipedia as part of a social media strategy for hotels

[WereSpielChequers]

I'm not inclined to shed a tear for hotel articles, many of which are I
suspect being created by spammers, but David makes an important point re
cultural bias from our lack of sources in certain parts of the world.

My view on this is that this is one area where a little bit of money
judiciously applied could go a long way. There must be large offline
archives of Newspapers, TV and Radio programs and other sources which could
be digitised quite cheaply. If the WMF were to grant fund this in some of
the poorest countries on Earth it would be money well spent.

WSC

On 29 June 2012 19:19, David Goodman <dggenwp at gmail.com> wrote:

> The India related pages are typically being deleted because of the
> lack of references in the submitted article, and the almost total
> inability of editors elsewhere to find sources for this area except
> of a few major newspapers. It is extremely frustrating  to find such
> an article on Proposed Deletion, about  someone I can guess is likely
> to be notable, but where I can find no references to indicate this--if
> there is no response from the editor who added it, what alternative is
> there for me to do but delete it?  We can potentially vary our
> notability standards to account for WP:Cultural bias, but I cannot see
> us abandoning the principle of WP:Verifiability and remaining an
> encyclopedia.
>
> , Jun 25, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Mike  Dupont <jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
> > Thanks Martjn,
> > yes, that is what I am saying, people are willing to submit trivial
> > data for the hope of becoming famous,
> > because WP is now the number one web page, instead of deleting it, I
> > say, lets process it.
> >
> > I have been studying the speedy deletion data for the past days,
> > tuning my program, of course there is a lot of junk in there, but it
> > seem that something similar is happening with the indian subcontinent,
> > many pages are just being deleted because why would some actor or
> > doctor in india or pakistan ever be notable for the western world.
> > But if you ever wanted to study the culture of that area, such
> > articles would be useful. If you wanted to encourage editors from that
> > area, then it is better to thank people for the data instead of
> > deleting it.
> >
> > For my work in kosovo, trying to find contributors is very hard and
> > having a way to collect data for free is great.
> >
> > Also I am interested in free software and it seems that many free
> > software program articles are also being deleted, I am happy to have
> > copies of them.
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > mike
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Martijn Hoekstra
> > <martijnhoekstra at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Carcharoth <
> carcharothwp at googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>> On 6/25/12, Martijn Hoekstra <martijnhoekstra at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> What's wrong with "Hi, thanks for your stuff. It didn't belong here,
> >>>> so we put it there for you" rather than "Hi, you put stuff here that
> >>>> didn't belong here. Bad user. Find an admin that will email your stuff
> >>>> for you through a murky procedure, so you can put it there yourself"?
> >>>
> >>> I should have been clearer that if people want to spend their time
> >>> doing that, fine. But there are other things on Wikipedia that need
> >>> doing more urgently. Trans-wikiiing or moving stuff around is
> >>> laudable, but is a sideshow to the core aim of producing and improving
> >>> the quality of the online encyclopedia (as opposed to the online
> >>> travel guide or hotel guide or whatever). The problem is that this
> >>> sort of exhortation tends to fail when a volunteer workforce is
> >>> involved. And I am aware that it is possible for different online
> >>> freely licensed sites to work together in synergy, exchanging material
> >>> as needed, but it still feels like a distraction from the core
> >>> activities.
> >>>
> >>> Carcharoth
> >>>
> >>
> >> Maybe I'm misreading the thread, but I think that Mike was proposing
> >> to use the wiki for deleted articles he set up to use this information
> >> to move it over to OSM. I was slightly amazed that this seemed to be
> >> received as a bad idea in Carcharoths post. I am not suggesting that
> >> any administrator or editor *should* do this, but it should be
> >> applauded, ot at least shouldn't be discouraged if an editor does do
> >> that.
> >>
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