[WikiEN-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Autoconfirmed article creation trial

[MuZemike]

Does anyone think we can really get an actual "consensus" for anything 
big anymore on en.wiki?

To take from Beeblebrox on the Signpost not too long ago 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-08-29/The_pending_changes_fiasco):

"There seems inevitably to come a point in any such attempt where there 
are simply too many voices, too many nonsensical objections, too much 
petty bickering to get anything done. This is a growing, systemic 
problem at Wikipedia, and eventually we are going to have to deal with it."

The near-converse applies when developers "boldly" turn relatively minor 
features on without "community consensus", as seen at 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29/Archive_90#Watchlist_emails 
. That is, people complain up and down about it. It is impossible to 
have everyone happy about everything.

-MuZemike

On 9/13/2011 11:38 AM, David Gerard wrote:
> On 13 September 2011 17:35, Gwern Branwen<gwern0 at gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>> And in turn, I look forward to the study of the effects of this
>> change, which will never happen despite all promises before.
>
>
> Apparently just over 50% in favour is "broad consensus". Who knew?
>
> (Almost as good as the person who told me "we achieved consensus
> against that change" and it was, literally, a straw poll with two "no"
> and one "yes".)
>
>
> - d.
>
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