[WikiEN-l] declining numbers of EN wiki admins

MuZemike muzemike at gmail.com
Thu May 27 00:03:40 UTC 2010


We need to remember that correlation does not imply causation here, 
which I think is what David is slightly hinting at. There are probably 
many other factors in admin decline as well, including increased 
popularity of Wikipedia (which leads and has led to a lot more problems, 
good and bad), increased questioning of literally every decision made, 
increased criticism (general and specific) of adminship and 
administrators, higher RfA standards, etc. The list goes on.

-MuZemike

On 5/26/2010 6:34 PM, David Goodman wrote:
> Are you saying that a _declining_ number of administrators means a
> _growth_ in bureaucracy?  It would normally mean the opposite, either
> a loss of control, or that the ordinary members were taking the
> function upon themselves.  What I see is a greater degree of control
> and uniformity, not driven by those in formal positions of authority.
>
> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Ryan Delaney<ryan.delaney at gmail.com>  wrote:
>    
>> Pretty much. That's more or less why I quit the project.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:51 PM, The Cunctator<cunctator at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> By all measures, en.wiki has been in decline for years as an active
>>> project.
>>> It's just the typical death by bureaucracy that most projects like this
>>> undergo.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Kwan Ting Chan<ktc at ktchan.info>  wrote:
>>>
>>>        
>>>> WereSpielChequers wrote:
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>>> What are the likely results of a dwindling number of admins, and a
>>>>> growing wikigeneration gap between admins and other editors?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>> Well, they're not dwindling since admin rights don't get taken away on
>>>> inactivity. ;-) But to the general question, because the standard
>>>>          
>>> expected
>>>        
>>>> of a candidate for RfA has gone up over the years?
>>>>
>>>> KTC
>>>>
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