[WikiEN-l] Another notability casualty

[Gwern Branwen]

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Carcharoth <carcharothwp at googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Ken Arromdee <arromdee at rahul.net> wrote:
>> I stumbled into this:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Kinuyo_Yamashita
>>
>> My personal summary: Notability requirements shown to be utterly broken for
>> popular culture topics.
>
> Yeah. It's difficult. The discussion looks like a 'no consensus', but
> throw in the socking accusations and the BLP background, and you can
> understand the result, even if you disagree with it. I would look up
> some sources, but I really hate those "pseudonym in another language
> in an obscure and emerging genre (video music)" cases. You really
> can't make much progress with those unless someone actually goes and
> writes a book about it, or you know the other language (and I know no
> Japanese at all).
>
> Carcharoth

And it doesn't help that composers lend themselves to being indexed in
databases and general name-checking without substantive content.

For example, look at the hits for Kinuyo in my CSE:
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=009114923999563836576%3A1eorkzz2gp4&q=%22Kinuyo+Yamashita%22

Leaving aside the issue that I have no idea whether to whitelist
originalsoundversion.com as a RS or blacklist it as a database/blog
filling up my results, note that there are tons of references &
mentions, but few substantive discussions. (Ironically, one of the
more prominent hits is an osv.com post criticizing the deletion:
http://www.originalsoundversion.com/?p=7667 )

-- 
gwern