[WikiEN-l] Images that are PD in their country of origin

Cary Bass cary at wikimedia.org
Tue Feb 9 18:07:32 UTC 2010


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Cary Bass wrote:
> SlimVirgin wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 10:59, Cary Bass <cary at wikimedia.org>
>> wrote:
>
>>> I'd like to point out that in fact, these images would be
>>> accepted on to Commons, because Commons respects the country of
>>> origin rule rather than the PD-US rule that more often applies
>>> on the English Wikipedia.
>> Hi Cary, most of the image people I've checked with say that
>> images on the Commons are supposed to be PD in their country of
>> origin *and* in the U.S. Although there are images on the Commons
>> that are PD in their country of origin but *not* in the U.S.,
>> they usually carry a tag that places the PD status in doubt and
>> may be proposed for deletion. This means we can't use them on WP.
>>
>
>> Look at this image for example.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Refugees_from_Lydda.jpg
>
>> Palestinian refugees in the British Mandate of Palestine during
>> the exodus from their homes after Israeli troops moved in, July
>> 1948, photographer unknown, believed to be from, or working on
>> behalf of, the British War Office. First publication date not
>> known, but I do know it had been published by 1957. It's PD in
>> Israel, which now governs part of that land. It's PD in Jordan,
>> which governs the other part. 99.9 percent certain it's PD in the
>> UK, which governed the land at the time. But not clearly PD in
>> the U.S. It has therefore been proposed for deletion from the
>> Commons.
>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Refugees_from_Lydda.jpg
>
> Yes, of course I didn't make an exception to my comment, regarding
> whether or not an image was first published in the United States.
> :-) Foolish me for not pointing out the exceptions; however... this
> image was published in 1957 without a copyright notice, making it
> public domain in the US. I've noted that in the deletion discussion
> on Commons.
Or does this fall under that crazy 1996 law...


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