[WikiEN-l] Putting some perspective on the end of Wikipedia

Durova nadezhda.durova at gmail.com
Fri Sep 4 17:30:27 UTC 2009


Try this instead to refute the "Wikipedia is dying" argument.  Wikipedia's
featured picture program started in May 2004.  It took until 30 December
2007 to reach 1000 featured pictures.  We're on track to reach number 2000
within a week: currently at 1973 FPs with 63 active nominations.

It would be interesting if someone wrote a tool to check article citations.
Footnoting has been getting more and more commonplace, as well as more
extensive.

-Durova


On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 7:02 AM, FT2 <ft2.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:

> Passed on to WP:AN
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Protection_template_issue<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Protection_template_issue>
>
> FT2
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:36 PM, FT2 <ft2.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Okay, found out why.
> >
> > You need to account for [[Category:Wikipedia pages protected due to
> > dispute]] and other protection categories, as well. Pages such as
> "Russell's
> > teapot" and "Developed country" are in there, protected, but not tagged.
> >
> > The root cause seems to be that the category isn't itself a subcategory
> of
> > some "protected pages" category. Specifically, there are protection
> > templates <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Protection_templates>
> > such as "Pp-dispute" that don't also include the page in one of the main
> > "protected pages" categories you name.
> >
> > FT2
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:29 PM, FT2 <ft2.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry, no.
> >>
> >> A quick look at the protection log shows many more protections of
> articles
> >> as well as other pages; listing in the protected pages categories almost
> >> seems an exception when these are clicked on.
> >>
> >> As well a wide range of pages are "salted" - deleted then protected to
> >> prevent recreation. Those don't appear in categories either.
> >>
> >> It looks like you'd need to do a check on actual status of mainspace
> pages
> >> via the toolserver to get accurate statistics.
> >>
> >> FT2
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Joseph Reagle <reagle at mit.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> One of the best responses to some of the hyperbole out there about the
> >>> closing, failure, end of WP is the figure of how many articles are
> actually
> >>> locked down in any way, however, this is a difficult figure to
> >>> authoritatively find/claim. There's Main and Featured [1] of course,
> about
> >>> 11 protected articles [2], and then 785 semi-protected [3].
> >>>
> >>> So are those the right numbers? If so can we claim about .0026% of
> pages
> >>> are protected from editing by "anyone" and .00004% of pages are
> protected
> >>> from Wikipedians (i.e., you've signed up for an account and haven't
> done
> >>> anything stupid for a few days.)
> >>>
> >>> How many pages (BPL + ?) are likely to fall under Flagged Protection?
> >>>
> >>> [1]:
> >>>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_indefinitely_protected_pages
> >>> [2]:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_protected_pages
> >>> [3]:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_semi-protected_pages
> >>>
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