[WikiEN-l] Putting some perspective on the end of Wikipedia

[FT2]

Passed on to WP:AN

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Protection_template_issue

FT2


On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:36 PM, FT2 <ft2.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:

> Okay, found out why.
>
> You need to account for [[Category:Wikipedia pages protected due to
> dispute]] and other protection categories, as well. Pages such as "Russell's
> teapot" and "Developed country" are in there, protected, but not tagged.
>
> The root cause seems to be that the category isn't itself a subcategory of
> some "protected pages" category. Specifically, there are protection
> templates <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Protection_templates>
> such as "Pp-dispute" that don't also include the page in one of the main
> "protected pages" categories you name.
>
> FT2
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:29 PM, FT2 <ft2.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry, no.
>>
>> A quick look at the protection log shows many more protections of articles
>> as well as other pages; listing in the protected pages categories almost
>> seems an exception when these are clicked on.
>>
>> As well a wide range of pages are "salted" - deleted then protected to
>> prevent recreation. Those don't appear in categories either.
>>
>> It looks like you'd need to do a check on actual status of mainspace pages
>> via the toolserver to get accurate statistics.
>>
>> FT2
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Joseph Reagle <reagle at mit.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> One of the best responses to some of the hyperbole out there about the
>>> closing, failure, end of WP is the figure of how many articles are actually
>>> locked down in any way, however, this is a difficult figure to
>>> authoritatively find/claim. There's Main and Featured [1] of course, about
>>> 11 protected articles [2], and then 785 semi-protected [3].
>>>
>>> So are those the right numbers? If so can we claim about .0026% of pages
>>> are protected from editing by "anyone" and .00004% of pages are protected
>>> from Wikipedians (i.e., you've signed up for an account and haven't done
>>> anything stupid for a few days.)
>>>
>>> How many pages (BPL + ?) are likely to fall under Flagged Protection?
>>>
>>> [1]:
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_indefinitely_protected_pages
>>> [2]:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_protected_pages
>>> [3]:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_semi-protected_pages
>>>
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