[WikiEN-l] WP and Deep Web, was Re: Age fabrication and original research
dgoodmanny at gmail.com
Thu Oct 15 19:14:18 UTC 2009
A very good supplement to Google Scholar is Scirus, a free database
from Elsevier, which I suspect they made as a prototype for their very
expensive Scopus-- and as a way to promote it. http://www.scirus.com/
(disclosure: I'm on the Scirus Library Advisory Board)
David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S.
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Charles Matthews
<charles.r.matthews at ntlworld.com> wrote:
> stevertigo wrote:
>> David Goodman wrote:
>>> 1. The best role of a librarian is to teach other people how to do research,
>> Well, are they "librarians" or "teachers" in information science?
> Why promote a false dichotomy?
>>> ''How Wikipedia Works'' (http://howwikipediaworks.com/ the free online
>> Ah. Apparently only chapter 12 is "free." Does someone here have a
>> copy they would like to share? Or maybe a torrent link?
> The whole book is free under the GFDL.
> The only reason for keeping this thread going would be that the Monday
> lull seems to have stretched to Thursday this week. To sum up a bit, I
> was pushing for a broader definition of the part of the Web
> complementary to what Google or other search engines find with ease: the
> Deep Web includes webpage returns from online databases where the search
> you run is unobvious, but is not limited to those pages. The division of
> labour for exploring the Deep Web has to include more than webcrawlers,
> by definition. It could include both "explorers" and "dredgers".
> Explorers would be humans who carry out particularly arduous searches,
> either on their own behalf or for others, either self-taught or tutored
> in techniques and approaches that are "librarian-approved". They are
> recognisable as generic "researchers" as found in other fields. The
> other approach, which I'm calling dredger, is something like a collector
> of materials for an as-yet unspecified project. Wikimedia Commons in
> part of its operations is an example of dredging of this nature; I was
> suggesting that the idea isn't limited in its scope to media. The thing
> to add, as is apparent from the librarians' contributions to the thread,
> is that the maps are not yet good enough for us to withdraw the term
> "explorer", and "here be dragons" still applies.
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