[WikiEN-l] WP and Deep Web, was Re: Age fabrication and original research

[Charles Matthews]

stevertigo wrote:
> David Goodman wrote:
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>> 1. The best role of a librarian is to teach other people how to do research,
>>     
>
> Well, are they "librarians" or "teachers" in information science?
>   
Why promote a false dichotomy?
>> ''How Wikipedia Works''  (http://howwikipediaworks.com/ the free online
>> version.)
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>
> Ah. Apparently only chapter 12 is "free." Does someone here have a
> copy they would like to share? Or maybe a torrent link?
>   
The whole book is free under the GFDL.

The only reason for keeping this thread going would be that the Monday 
lull seems to have stretched to Thursday this week. To sum up a bit, I 
was pushing for a broader definition of the part of the Web 
complementary to what Google or other search engines find with ease: the 
Deep Web includes webpage returns from online databases where the search 
you run is unobvious, but is not limited to those pages. The division of 
labour for exploring the Deep Web has to include more than webcrawlers, 
by definition. It could include both "explorers" and "dredgers". 
Explorers would be humans who carry out particularly arduous searches, 
either on their own behalf  or for others, either self-taught or tutored 
in techniques and approaches that are "librarian-approved". They are 
recognisable as generic "researchers" as found in other fields. The 
other approach, which I'm calling dredger, is something like a collector 
of materials for an as-yet unspecified project. Wikimedia Commons in 
part of its operations is an example of dredging of this nature; I was 
suggesting that the idea isn't limited in its scope to media. The thing 
to add, as is apparent from the librarians' contributions to the thread, 
is that the maps are not yet good enough for us to withdraw the term 
"explorer", and "here be dragons" still applies.

Charles