[WikiEN-l] Blocking / moderation

[Carcharoth]

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:50 AM, stevertigo<stvrtg at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Carcharoth<carcharothwp at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> He does have a point. Jimbo founding principles did have something
>> about keeping mailing lists open. I would hope that this applies to
>> foundation-l as much as wiki-en-l, which I believe predates the
>> foundation mailing list.
>>
>> Do we have a mailing list historian around here? I know I could look
>> back at the earliest archives, but a personal touch would be nice if
>> there are any, ahem, *real* dinosaurs around here. Any of the 2001
>> crew still subscribed?
>
> I don't think we necessarily need any historians, dinosaurs, or other
> oldbies other than the ones we've got. I've been around since '02 -
> not really posting to wikien-l until '03 (sort of didn't like the
> idea). You're an oldbie as well, I well know.

Eh. I created my account in January 2005. That is over four years ago,
and I suppose if one's time here has been longer than the age of the
project when you arrived, that might mean something. Quite a scary
thought actually. The real scary thought will be when people say "I
can prove I'm over 18 because I've been editing for 18 years"! Or
where you can see someone's age by how long they have been here for. I
don't think it will quite ever get to the stage of "you must be a sock
because your account was created over 130 years ago", though...

> And not to mention, in
> '01 to mid-late '02, Larry was still around, and Jimbo's approach to
> Wikipedia was more detached and casual. Sanger did a lot of the early
> designing. Wales then came along and did a lot of the founding. Much
> of it, appropriately, on principles of openness and transparency.

Yes. A link here to those founding principles would be good:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jimbo_Wales/Statement_of_principles

> Much has changed for the worse now - what with Jimbo retired and out
> of the picture.

You might want to ask Jimbo his views on that. It could be a valid
viewpoint, but I don't think describing Jimbo as "retired" is entirely
accurate. If you want to ask him to reaffirm what his role is, then
that could be useful (and for those who don't follow on-wiki stuff
closely, that sort of thing has been happening in recent months and
years).

Current "information page":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Role_of_Jimmy_Wales

Recent discussion:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Role_of_Jimmy_Wales_in_the_English_Wikipedia

Carcharoth