[WikiEN-l] If anyone ever says Wikipedia is too deletionist

[elipongo at gmail.com]

It has to do with license compatibility - Commons has a strict policy that all material be available under a free license that includes commercial use. Would he, his heirs, or his estate object if the photo of the poem was modified to be used in a fast-food ad or for a hate group?

And while en.wiki does allow fair use, having the entirety of the poem is likely a stretch of our policies - so it should be removed from the article too.

-Elias Friedman (elipongo)

------Original Message------
From: Dan Dascalescu
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Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] If anyone ever says Wikipedia is too deletionist
Sent: Jul 26, 2009 03:52

> No, it just pushed my personal "wtf" button

Here's something that pushed my WTF button:

Why was a photograph of a public monument of Martin Niemoeller's poem
"First they came", removed from Wikipedia?

Here is a small version of the photograph:
http://www.oicu2.com/afc/Martin_Niemoeller.jpg

And here is the article's revision history:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=First_they_came...&action=history

I contacted the deletionist at
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kameraad_Pjotr#Martin_Niemoeller

Really, honestly, do some Wikipedia admins have nothing better to do
than delete photographs of public monuments on grounds of the poems
they represent not being in the public domain, while the very article
page reproduces the poem in its entirety?

Aside from that, let's have a bit of common sense: does anyone
sincerely think that if Martin Niemoeller were alive, he'd object to
the image of that monument being on Wikipedia? Does anyone think that
any of Niemoeller's heirs would object? WTF?!

--
Dan

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