[WikiEN-l] The current purges in English Wikipedia (...and my personal case)

[Desiphral]

Thank you. After the unpleasant experience I went through, I wonder if there
are other people caught as collateral victims in this paid editing roundup.
Something needs to be done to prevent this. Plus that, generally, I find the
whole roundup process not addressing the issue of paid editing, just an
unproductive way to produce new heroes and villains.

Desiphral

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Fred Bauder <fredbaud at fairpoint.net> wrote:

> OK, I'll unblock you, and save you a step in the appeals process, to
> unblock-en-l. I can see several things going on, some cultural. There is
> no evidence in recent edits, checked by checkuser, that there is any
> editing by others or for pay. In other words, this user has, other than
> impudently disclosed information about events in the past, done nothing.
>
> Fred Bauder
>
>
> > I agreed as I knew about it, I said "they will stay away from it"
> > (without
> > knowing about this policy, just for avoiding accusations of association)
> > and
> > I changed my password. If it's about the present tense of "I do not let
> > 'arbitrary' people use my account, even less spammers", it was as a reply
> > to
> > the present tense of the previous text of Rspeer, considering that they
> > talk
> > about what happened in the past. Then I continued to describe what
> > happened
> > in the past and how they did what they wanted by themselves. The present
> > had
> > no relevance for me, since I did not edit on Wikipedia for a lot of time
> > and, as far as I can foresee, I don't have plans to edit in the near
> > future.
> >
> >
> > Plus that, anyway, with my knowledge of English, not letting arbitrary
> > people does not imply automatically letting specific people (as one
> > derived
> > a conclusion).
> >
> > Deiphral
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Fred Bauder
> > <fredbaud at fairpoint.net>wrote:
> >
> >> > Put simply, because there was an ongoing issue with a compromised
> >> > account. A user was allowing other people to share his account, and
> >> had
> >> > not agreed to stop doing this. That is an ongoing problem and rightly
> >> > deserved a block.
> >> >
> >> > Of course if the user later agreed to stop doing this, the rationale
> >> > might not still apply.
> >>
> >> There is still a problem: He still has friends; there is probably still
> >> only one computer; and his friends may be interested in writing
> >> Wikipedia
> >> accounts for hire, a legal activity, as he points out. We might have to
> >> sort some of this stuff out. I think we can.
> >>
> >> Fred
> >>
> >> >
> >> > ----- "Nathan" <nawrich at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> From: "Nathan" <nawrich at gmail.com>
> >> >> To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> >> >> Sent: Thursday, 9 July, 2009 18:51:45 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain,
> >> Ireland,
> >> >> Portugal
> >> >> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] The current purges in English Wikipedia
> >> (...and
> >> >> my personal case)
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm not sure how blocking someone for conduct admitted from "some
> >> years
> >> >> ago", that doesn't appear to have hurt anyone or caused any
> >> disruption,
> >> >> is
> >> >> "the right thing to do." That's like saying "You violated 3RR in
> >> 2004,
> >> >> I'm
> >> >> blocking you for 24 hours. If you wish to be unblocked, admit your
> >> >> guilt and
> >> >> promise never to edit-war again." It's not bad advice for someone
> >> who
> >> >> wants
> >> >> to be unblocked, given human nature, but it shouldn't be necessary.
> >> >> Nathan
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