[WikiEN-l] Annoying hatnotes

[Carcharoth]

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Carcharoth

On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Jay
Litwyn<brewhaha at freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:
> List-class articles are lowest on the scale of quality.
> Going up in rank, it is "list, stub, start, b-class, good article, feature
> candidate, and once featured.
> They are still useful for maintenance if you are, for instance, cribbing
> notability from lists of award-winners.
> And even for users who are looking up something obscure, if their first hit
> is a disambig, then it is two clicks to a section. So, I am inclusionistic
> on this subject. It is all trivia. Wikipedia excels in trivia. Even the
> printed articles do not fit in twenty volumes, anymore; a few thousand, last
> time I read about it. I could just about go against notability in this
> thread, and I won't, because it is an important criterion for judging what
> should be easy to find and what should be be clear.
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> "Carcharoth" <carcharothwp at googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:206791b10908200235y1a600386s14a383839e25e82a at mail.gmail.com...
> OK. I'll break it down:
>
> 1) Do you accept that trivial disambiguations can be unencyclopedic?
>
> Carcharoth
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 2:59 AM, <wjhonson at aol.com> wrote:
>> I have no idea what you just ask. That's a lot of jargon for one
>> question.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Carcharoth <carcharothwp at googlemail.com>
>> To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>> Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2009 1:06 pm
>> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying hatnotes
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>> Will, simple question: do you accept that trivial disambiguations can
>> be unencyclopedic and give the wrong impression, and if so, is having
>> a neutral dab hatlink better than a jarring note being sounded at the
>> top of a page, the first thing the reader will read after the title?
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>> OK, that was a long simple question...
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>> Carcharoth
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>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:47 PM, <WJhonson at aol.com> wrote:
>>> This is how I do it. If in "Plankton" we have only one other thing
>> named
>>> planton, then we shouldn't have a disamg page just for two items.
>> That seems
>>> overkill. So in that case SB_Plankton makes sense. If however in
>> "Bob
>>> Jones" we have 15 people, 3 things, and 2 places named "Bob Jones"
>> then it
>>> makes sense to have a disamg page.
>>>
>>> I.E. there's a trade-off in having too many clicks, where it is? two
>>> items? or three?
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>>> W.J
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>>> In a message dated 8/19/2009 7:37:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
>>> carcharothwp at googlemail.com writes:
>>>
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>>>> If there really is a chance that
>>>> people will search for "plankton" in an attempt to find out about the
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>>>> SB character, then the hatnote should be neutral and direct people to
>>>> a disambiguation page ("for other things named plankton, see here").
>>>> And I don't care if that disambiguation page only has two entries.
>>>> That is an acceptable trade-off to having a spongebob squarepants
>>>> character name jarring people's reading experience by being placed at
>>>> the top of an unrelated article.
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