[WikiEN-l] Drafting - was Re: Civility poll results

[Emily Monroe]

I have the impression that that's only available to admins?

Emily
On Aug 13, 2009, at 8:39 PM, FT2 wrote:

> It's simpler than that. "Move" has an option not to leave a redirect.
>
>
> FT2
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Carcharoth <carcharothwp at googlemail.com 
> >wrote:
>
>> There is no draft namespace (yet). That would have to be proposed and
>> discussed on-wiki (discussions here are more like brain-storming).  
>> The
>> closest thing at the moment is "userfy" (if there is a tag for that).
>> But you would usually move it to the user's namespace (yes, you do it
>> the normal way) and let them know what you've done, as you then need
>> to delete the redirect. It is usually only done for obvious cases
>> (e.g. someone write a biography of themself that should be on their
>> user page instead).
>>
>> Carcharoth
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Emily Monroe<bluecaliocean at me.com>  
>> wrote:
>>> I propose that we have a "This probably belongs in the draft
>>> namespace." tag. I don't know how to move something from one  
>>> namespace
>>> into another (do you do it the normal way?), and it will help with
>>> busy new page patrollers. If I see two or three articles that  
>>> needs to
>>> be moved to the draft namespace, and then four or five looking like
>>> attack/test/spam pages, I'll probably be grateful for the ability to
>>> tag. More than likely, I'll just forget about the two or three
>>> articles needing to be moved, and it's highly unlikely, in this time
>>> of my life, that I'll change the way I patrol.
>>>
>>> Emily
>>> On Aug 13, 2009, at 12:47 PM, Carcharoth wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oops! That's right, I completely forgot that! :-/
>>>>
>>>> Carcharoth
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Andrew
>>>> Turvey<andrewrturvey at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Non-logged in people cant create new articles.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- "Carcharoth" <carcharothwp at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> From: "Carcharoth" <carcharothwp at googlemail.com>
>>>>>> To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 13 August, 2009 17:10:41 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain,
>>>>>> Ireland, Portugal
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Drafting - was Re: Civility poll results
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Charles
>>>>>> Matthews<charles.r.matthews at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Carcharoth wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 1:02 PM, FT2<ft2.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd be in favor of a "Draft:" namespace, which users could use
>>>>>>>>> for drafting
>>>>>>>>> articles. Content to be non-spidered. That way we can tell a
>>>>>>>>> user to see if
>>>>>>>>> some other user has started work on a draft already.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This would possibly help collaboration, ensure only credible
>>>>>>>>> articles get
>>>>>>>>> mainspaced, yet retain "anyone can edit" and the gradual
>>>>>>>>> development of
>>>>>>>>> stubs without pressure to delete.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's been suggested before. What it needs is someone to drive
>>>>>>>> the idea forward.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Notice that if you now try to start the page [[dummydummy]], you
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> offered the chance to draft it at [[Special:MyPage/Dummydummy
>>>>>>> <
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:MyPage/Dummydummy&action=edit
>>>>>>>> ]].
>>>>>>> I'm not entirely clear what the preferred route is from there.
>>>>>>> But I
>>>>>>> imagine suggestions for drafting as more systematically  
>>>>>>> encouraged
>>>>>>> should be grafted onto this use of special pages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I *think* that is only for people who are logged in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carcharoth
>>>>>>
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