[WikiEN-l] Drafting - was Re: Civility poll results

[FT2]

It's simpler than that. "Move" has an option not to leave a redirect.


FT2

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Carcharoth <carcharothwp at googlemail.com>wrote:

> There is no draft namespace (yet). That would have to be proposed and
> discussed on-wiki (discussions here are more like brain-storming). The
> closest thing at the moment is "userfy" (if there is a tag for that).
> But you would usually move it to the user's namespace (yes, you do it
> the normal way) and let them know what you've done, as you then need
> to delete the redirect. It is usually only done for obvious cases
> (e.g. someone write a biography of themself that should be on their
> user page instead).
>
> Carcharoth
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Emily Monroe<bluecaliocean at me.com> wrote:
> > I propose that we have a "This probably belongs in the draft
> > namespace." tag. I don't know how to move something from one namespace
> > into another (do you do it the normal way?), and it will help with
> > busy new page patrollers. If I see two or three articles that needs to
> > be moved to the draft namespace, and then four or five looking like
> > attack/test/spam pages, I'll probably be grateful for the ability to
> > tag. More than likely, I'll just forget about the two or three
> > articles needing to be moved, and it's highly unlikely, in this time
> > of my life, that I'll change the way I patrol.
> >
> > Emily
> > On Aug 13, 2009, at 12:47 PM, Carcharoth wrote:
> >
> >> Oops! That's right, I completely forgot that! :-/
> >>
> >> Carcharoth
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Andrew
> >> Turvey<andrewrturvey at googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>> Non-logged in people cant create new articles.
> >>>
> >>> ----- "Carcharoth" <carcharothwp at googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>>> From: "Carcharoth" <carcharothwp at googlemail.com>
> >>>> To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, 13 August, 2009 17:10:41 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain,
> >>>> Ireland, Portugal
> >>>> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Drafting - was Re: Civility poll results
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Charles
> >>>> Matthews<charles.r.matthews at ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Carcharoth wrote:
> >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 1:02 PM, FT2<ft2.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'd be in favor of a "Draft:" namespace, which users could use
> >>>>>>> for drafting
> >>>>>>> articles. Content to be non-spidered. That way we can tell a
> >>>>>>> user to see if
> >>>>>>> some other user has started work on a draft already.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This would possibly help collaboration, ensure only credible
> >>>>>>> articles get
> >>>>>>> mainspaced, yet retain "anyone can edit" and the gradual
> >>>>>>> development of
> >>>>>>> stubs without pressure to delete.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thoughts?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It's been suggested before. What it needs is someone to drive
> >>>>>> the idea forward.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Notice that if you now try to start the page [[dummydummy]], you
> >>>>> get
> >>>>> offered the chance to draft it at [[Special:MyPage/Dummydummy
> >>>>> <
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:MyPage/Dummydummy&action=edit
> >>>>> >]].
> >>>>> I'm not entirely clear what the preferred route is from there.
> >>>>> But I
> >>>>> imagine suggestions for drafting as more systematically encouraged
> >>>>> should be grafted onto this use of special pages.
> >>>>
> >>>> I *think* that is only for people who are logged in.
> >>>>
> >>>> Carcharoth
> >>>>
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